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#449383 Civ VI released for iPads!

Posted Frost on 02 July 2018 - 07:32 PM

View Postmacdude22, on 02 July 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

Still playing this around the house. Plays exceptionally well by fingers or by stylus. I have a really nice pen/stylus that I got on amazon. Convenient for precision poking in Civ VI

https://www.amazon.c...ifti pen stylus

I stopped gaming on my iOS devices a while back (Legion for iPad was AWESOME; shame support got dropped). This is tempting me though.


#449381 What games are people playing these days!?

Posted Frost on 02 July 2018 - 03:07 PM

Been replaying Mad Max a bunch the past week. I remembered the game being fun and I wasn't wrong! And hey! Unlike when I originally played, now I can play it on my MacBook Pro as well and the saves sync whether I'm on my Mac or my PC. Oddly enough it runs really well on my MBP even though it's below minimum requirements and technically unsupported. Props to the Feral programmers!


#449285 MacOS 10.14 - Mojave

Posted Frost on 07 June 2018 - 03:40 PM

View PostTetsuya, on 07 June 2018 - 11:26 AM, said:

How about "Wildfire"?  That rolls off the tongue better.

10.16 can be Wildfire. After 10.15 breaks all the 32-bit apps, 10.16 can make a bunch of weird API changes and break half the legacy 64-bit apps. Burn down what's left!

We can collectively refer to the two as "Shake n' Bake."


#449270 MacOS 10.14 - Mojave

Posted Frost on 05 June 2018 - 03:12 PM

View PostJanichsan, on 05 June 2018 - 02:23 PM, said:

Both in fact will finally go the way of the dodo with macOS 10.15 as part of the 32-bit culling.

Staying with the California theme, they should make it macOS 10.15 Earthquake. All the older apps come crashing down.


#449262 The Last Jedi [SPOILERS GALORE]

Posted Frost on 05 June 2018 - 01:07 PM

I have to come down on the side of liking Solo as well. Ron Howard did a good job rescuing the film. It was not great, but neither was it bad, just good and fun and worth the ticket price I paid. And it's not another damn Marvel movie FFS.

It's a shame it's being punished for TLJ's SJW fest and KK popsnizzleting on fans. They'll probably take the wrong message away from it since those kinds of people generally reside in echo chambers, and double down now on more space cow milking and less Han shooting first, and thus Star Wars will finally hit a brick wall.


#449231 The Last Jedi [SPOILERS GALORE]

Posted Frost on 03 June 2018 - 02:50 PM

View Postmacdude22, on 03 June 2018 - 01:52 PM, said:

Birdemic is :thumbsup:

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#449201 Jeff Vogel announces new game: 'Queen's Wish: The Conqueror'

Posted Frost on 30 May 2018 - 11:17 AM

View Postnick68k, on 30 May 2018 - 06:25 AM, said:

but 'fort building' of some kind is promised

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#449199 Steam Link coming to iOS and tvOS

Posted Frost on 30 May 2018 - 11:08 AM

I just came here when I saw tBC and Frigidman because I knew them from way back in Marathon days and hadn't talked to them since, and gaming on the Mac (and my gaming on the Mac) was actually pretty serious and we had loads of killer AAA titles in 2005 that I was gobbling up and playing.

I stayed for the small, but cool community. But as the level of availability of Mac games dropped off I slowly went console over the years, and then went Windows in 2013.

Hell, that's another reason I like the possibilities of streaming, because I can actually play a load of killer AAA titles that I enjoy but aren't in a porting house's budget on my Mac again (hence the whole throwing a controller in my bag with my MacBook Pro). I can also play them maxed out while Apple goes off on their Tim Cook era tangents where we spend years without a real GPU option. I love what Feral's doing now, but when stuff happens like I bought the C&C Deluxe Edition on the Mac App Store and then Aspyr lets it languish in non-working, crashing condition on a significant number of computers for literal years... I feel unloved as a Mac gamer.


#449190 Steam Link coming to iOS and tvOS

Posted Frost on 30 May 2018 - 01:08 AM

View PostMatt Diamond, on 29 May 2018 - 08:18 PM, said:

Side A: "Streaming works okay for us and we like it."
Side B: "Nobody wants it" or "It's a niche market"

I'm not seeing the point of this argument, frankly. Unless I missed something, the first group of people didn't claim much other than that they personally are interested in streaming options. So what is the second group of people trying to convince them of? That they are wrong to want it because it's a niche market? Or that they don't know their own minds?

I'm putting my money on, "Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior Xbox One?" :P

Regardless, I don't care if I convince anyone. I don't need to. I don't stream regularly, but when I do, it works for me. I have customers making buying decisions based on it and it's not exactly one out of every 20. You can say, "Nu-uh, no one's using it" all day long, and well, okay, I wish you well in your alternate reality. And I wish Valve success bringing it to Apple devices, especially the Apple TV. Because I don't know how many times showing off the Shield TV has gotten a "that's awesome, I didn't even know that could be done! Do they have that for Apple TV too? I use Apple devices" and I've inwardly grumbled about the state of Apple and gaming and said no. Maybe soon I can say, "yeah, absolutely, let me show you how!"


#449182 Steam Link coming to iOS and tvOS

Posted Frost on 29 May 2018 - 02:07 PM

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 28 May 2018 - 05:49 PM, said:

The above edge case conveniently ignores how unlikely the described scenario is for the vast majority of consumers. Again, this stuff which as you point out works now for you, is nowhere because nobody cares.

Steamlink is cheap but does it sell like hotcakes? No, Valve gives them away. Nobody cares except maybe the Tom's Hardware crowd about trying to make a console out of a PC.

I think you're confusing self with everyone. Nobody uses it, nobody cares, it's dead... which is why NVIDIA, Valve, Microsoft, and Sony are either competing or collaborating or a combination thereof on various solutions to reach what is supposedly an almost non-existent subset of gamers. Right. Sure.

The only one who's failed utterly in the market was Sony, and that was on the hardware end. The OG PS4 was woefully underpowered for encoding a stream and couldn't do better than laggy 720p, and nobody wanted a PStv because it was an underpowered POS that used a 12 year-old controller design almost nobody liked and locked down hardware that wouldn't play anything but PS Vita games, and even then only if they didn't use the Vita's touchscreen. To be fair, Sony turned it around though. Their PC and Mac streaming solution is doing well and regularly updated, and the revised PS4 hardware got attention so it's actually up to the task of sending out 1080p/60 at low latency now.

Microsoft is doing fine, they didn't jump the gun and brought their tech in with everything already ready to go. They're just not focused on it as much so use cases are more limited.

NVIDIA's GameStream tech is part of what put Steam Big Picture and Steam streaming on the map because it finally got lag down enough and graphical fidelity high enough to stream to the living room (if you're using a GeForce-equipped PC, Valve actually doesn't use their homegrown streaming tech they cooperated with AMD on, they use NVIDIA's) without a crappy gaming experience.

Valve "gives them away" during sales because they want a slice of their own pie and they also want to encourage further market penetration and the Steamlink is dirt cheap to produce. Steam in-home streaming does get used, but mainly using either another computer or NVIDIA hardware, not Valve hardware. There's no "cheap" solution right now as another computer is far from cheap, and a SATV box is about the price of an Apple TV (albeit vastly more capable). A phone or tablet though? Everybody's got that, and they're fast enough for proper decoding. Hence Valve's trying a software solution with devices everybody already has.

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 28 May 2018 - 05:49 PM, said:

If the office chair beats your living room for comfort maybe it's time for some new living room furniture? Maybe skip a six hundred dollar video card and put it towards a recliner?

I've got a Steelcase Leap in my home office and a La-Z-Boy in my home theater, I'm covered, thanks.

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 28 May 2018 - 05:49 PM, said:

I think you are really reaching for straws when I am supposed to appreciate the benefit of being able to take an Xbox break outdoors on your MacBook Pro. Do you always bring your controller outside too just in case you might feel like doing this? You are presenting examples here of things that people do not normally care about doing as if that represents an everyday value for the average person. Don't get me wrong.  If you like doing that and it works for you, great but that doesn't make it a selling point for most people. Just because you can do something doesn't make it an ideal way of doing it.

My way is directly supported and actively developed from both from the hardware end by everybody except Nintendo and AMD. Even then, Nintendo is aware of the convenience and makes moving the Switch around and going from handheld to TV and back again a breeze, so they're addressing that market from the hardware end, and AMD has put a good bit of effort into competing with NVIDIA's solutions; they just don't offer their own hardware.

Ask yourself this: is it a grand conspiracy to push something nobody wants, or do they have a large enough subset of customers interested in that capability that it's worth supporting? Which one makes more business sense, a conspiracy, or profitability?

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 28 May 2018 - 05:49 PM, said:

Allow me to demonstrate:

You want to play a game in your office and you have a powerful gaming PC.  So you play a PC game on the thing.

You want to play a console game and you have an Xbox One X. You enjoy the comfort of your living room and do it.

You want to take a little gaming break while doing some work outdoors. You fire up some casual or other  Mac game on your MacBook.

In all three cases, you take the path of least resistance which is normal human behavior. You don't need extra apps or hardware. The stuff all just works with zero additional steps.

You're demonstrating you're stuck ten years ago. No additional steps to you is having to do this here, and that there, and that's it. When reality, that is lots of additional steps. Physical ones even. And yes, I do chuck a controller in my laptop bag with my MacBook Pro when I go somewhere, because a controller and a cable is hardly any extra weight in the bag.

The real path of least resistance: doing anything, anywhere, anytime.

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 28 May 2018 - 05:49 PM, said:

The majority, the huge overwhelming majority is NOT you guys. I don't think you get that.  This stuff sinks or swims based on the majority and they can't be bothered and they are not willing to pay for stuff like this. One more time, this would be everywhere now except for one little problem. It's a solution looking for a problem that does not exist for enough consumers to justify its existence.

On topic here, about Steam on Apple hardware, not PCs, Nvidia Shield or Xbox for that matter my entire point has been that streaming PC games to a television sucks because in most cases it does. One more time, if it was great everybody would be all over it. They aren't. That right there says it all. My suggestion in light of this and therefore also on topic is just get a fraking console if you want to play games on your TV.  They are made for this and excel at it.

No. I'm in this business. Things sink or swim based on whether there is enough market to be profitable. There is. Almost half the machines I shipped to end users (my main focus is business to business, but I do direct to individual for some areas) in March ended up wanting a Shield TV unit to go with them once they were aware of what it could do and got a demo. A few even went the NUC route pre-configured for in-home streaming along with HTPC capability, although those were definitely a tiny minority. Now, granted, I don't compete in the popsnizzlety budget box market, I go for the high end so it's a lot more likely for someone to buy that kind of extra. But even so, that says a lot and is very different from last year. I've had more Shield TVs purchased and included with computers since January this year than in the entirety of 2017. If Valve gets approval from Apple, Apple TVs will likely start getting thrown into the mix too.

Now I have you on the one hand here saying nobody's using it and nobody cares, and in similar threads everybody's playing on consoles and PCs are on the way out. But on the other hand hard data shows PC gaming is booming, console hardware is flat or floundering for the past 18 months, streaming is becoming more common, and I have my balance sheet for this year backing that up. Plus moves by hardware and software giants to compete at addressing a market you're telling me is so small it basically doesn't exist.

I'm sure it doesn't make sense to you, you don't like it, and it's not something you care to use. I get that. And you're right, you are the majority of the market. So far.  The market is a minority, but it is also large enough to be addressed profitably and it does most certainly exist far outside of being some extreme edge case that you're trying to paint it as for I don't know what reason.

If you think the market for something like Valve's app is basically non-existent because gosh, nobody does in-home streaming of any kind... I'm sorry, but you're both wrong and you're out of date.


#449172 Steam Link coming to iOS and tvOS

Posted Frost on 27 May 2018 - 01:33 PM

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 27 May 2018 - 03:28 AM, said:

Oh, please Frost. Come on. Have mercy will you? Who the hell wants to stream console games to a PC in their house? We were talking about streaming TO a television not away from it or do some folks like streaming from console to PC to Steamlink back to television just because they can? Once again, this for the brave few would likely be over wireless. Have fun with that.

I'm sorry but I honestly had to lol at that one. You don't do that do you?

I'm talking about people with more than just one place they sit and game. Maybe my home office with my PC is on another floor from my home theater and console, and I feel like kicking back in the office chair and pulling up an Xbox 360 game on the Xbox One. I just turn on the DualShock 4 I've got connected to my PC, open the Xbox app, and there we go.

If I want to play a PC game in the home theater, I just go the opposite direction with the Shield TV unit.

It's really not as complicated and hocus pocus as you make it sound. It's no different from using an Apple TV's screen mirroring feature to put something from your iPhone or iPad onto the TV, which *gasp* people use every day. I'm just using it to play videogames instead of show off the selfie I took eating a cookie at Starbucks. Unplugging and hauling PCs and consoles around the house and stringing cables just to do something at another spot is something from the previous decade.

For instance, I'm sitting outside at my patio table right now because it's a nice day and doing some paperwork on my MacBook Pro. I felt like taking a break and foruming. But if I felt like taking an Xbox break instead, presto, I just opened an app and hit connect:

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#449122 Introducing Speedcat (New Feral rep)

Posted Frost on 23 May 2018 - 08:54 PM

Great, another cat to deal with. Isn't a battle cat enough? Now we have one on speed. Y'all are killin' me.


#449022 I apologize for derailing threads.

Posted Frost on 09 May 2018 - 09:57 PM

View Postmacdude22, on 09 May 2018 - 07:46 AM, said:

Crossover 64-bit support.

https://www.codeweav...pport-for-macos

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#448975 macOS 10.13 - High Sierra

Posted Frost on 04 May 2018 - 02:27 PM

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 27 April 2018 - 05:11 AM, said:

I have to agree, about the lamentations of their women in particular. That is a real favorite of mine. Very well Father Death, carry on carrying on with your grim and necessary task.

Oh, and you should do it with the modern conveniences of consoles so as to be more efficient in performing the aforementioned task.

Why, you ask? Because PC gaming sucks, costs too much and wastes precious time! Do not attempt to persuade me otherwise for my self righteous stubbornness is invincible.

@DirtyHarry50

Here, this is my ideal casual game for relaxing before bed:

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#448953 BATTLETECH

Posted Frost on 01 May 2018 - 10:24 PM

View PostJanichsan, on 30 April 2018 - 04:07 AM, said:

If you want to waste two hours of your life

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