Side B: "Nobody wants it" or "It's a niche market"
I'm not seeing the point of this argument, frankly. Unless I missed something, the first group of people didn't claim much other than that they personally are interested in streaming options. So what is the second group of people trying to convince them of? That they are wrong to want it because it's a niche market? Or that they don't know their own minds?
Yeah, you did miss something. There was peace in the valley until Apple revoked the app approval. This thread was about streaming games on Apple hardware originally. Some discussion ensued about Apple canning it. I detailed my own experience with streaming in general and Steam in particular. I suggested getting a console since it just works.
At this point I'm the one who started getting schooled on how great streaming is. Let's get the order of events right here.
What were they trying to convince me of, that I am wrong to reject it after buying the hardware, using it and being dissatisfied for good reason or that I don't know my own mind? You'd have to ask them about that. Am I not allowed to have an experience based opinion and share it?
Then this took off into Frost's Nvidia business being the authority here, etc. My comment there was simply that I'm glad that works well for some and his business is good.
I'm sorry but I am not going to say what the crew wants to hear all the time just to fit in with the cool kids. I'm going to say what I honestly think. I said that stuff working for some folks is all well and good but it's not a mainstream thing for a variety of reasons which I have already mentioned.
Trying to return this to topic, I posted this:
On topic here, about Steam on Apple hardware, not PCs, Nvidia Shield or Xbox for that matter my entire point has been that streaming PC games to a television sucks because in most cases it does. One more time, if it was great everybody would be all over it. They aren't. That right there says it all. My suggestion in light of this and therefore also on topic is just get a fraking console if you want to play games on your TV. They are made for this and excel at it.
The idea here was to offer information based on personal experience using Valve's hardware to people who haven't tried this yet. I don't recommend it. For those who do want to try this, Frost is selling a solution I assume he guarantees you will be happy with so message him about that would be my advice.
I am not on an Xbox crusade Frost. Sure, I talk about stuff I like. So do you with nvidia. So what? I suggested an alternative that I know to work well. So did you. The difference is I don't make remarks about you being on a crusade just because your ideas and mine are not in agreement.
You must also consider me to be an idiot. As if crusading for some game console would ever change anyone's mind around here and why would I care other than to share my thoughts on something I have fun with.
By the way, idiot here did his homework on your assertions regarding PC and Console revenue. In terms of money the order goes mobile (by far), console and PC gaming is heading up the rear by a substantial margin. Since I reside in an alternate universe I'll let you research that for yourself if you want facts instead of fiction. My source provides data to the major publishers in the industry. According to them, revenues for PC gaming are projected to decline in the coming years as console and mobile are projected to increase. I'm not surprised personally.