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[nick68k]

Announced by BeamDog, available for pre-order, coming soon™ for Mac and other, lesser, desktop OS'. No Mac toolset yet (surprise).

Go read the FAQ if you're interested, I have a turkey to prepare.

[devSin]

nick68k, on 22 November 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

No Mac toolset yet (surprise).

There are no plans for Mac or Linux versions of the toolset.

It's nice to finally get an x86 client (I know Owen actually had it working at one point, but they were never able to release it). The switch to modern shaders also means we get shiny water now.

[nick68k]

Agree about the x86 client. I had the original running under WINE some years back, but it's been a long time since I visited it.

Presumably the toolset will continue to work this way, or via your favourite VM.

(Old timers may remember the heroic efforts of the NeverEdit guy...what (futile) hope he gave us back in the PPC days.)

[devSin]

They said they could try to fix any issues that would prevent the toolset from working in Wine (mainly for Linux). It's still in Borland, so it's going to live and die on Windows, unless they open source it (which doesn't seem likely).

But the client seems to have feature parity (in terms of the new shader support), at least as far as they've said. So any new mods and stuff should work just as well on Mac.

[Thain Esh Kelch]

This means I can finally play that game! It is quite high on my 'I bought it and should have played it since it caters to my gaming preferences'-list...

[nick68k]

The main campaign is basically fine, but not particularly memorable. I had a lot of fun with the bundled official expansions (Undrentide and Underdark). The latter takes to you especially weird places.

Of course, the real draw is the persistent world stuff and the user-created content. I'm hoping that gets a healthy shot-in-the-arm with the EE release.

[Camper-Hunter]

nick68k, on 23 November 2017 - 06:27 AM, said:

I had a lot of fun with the bundled official expansions (Undrentide and Underdark).

Thanks to Deekin!

[devSin]

Camper-Hunter, on 23 November 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

Thanks to Deekin!

Deekin is the only memorable thing from SoU IMO. That campaign was even more forgettable than the OC.

HotU really was special, though.

[Ichigo27]

I hope this means I could run it under 10.10.11.

[DirtyHarry50]

Wonderful news! I'm glad both macOS and Linux are supported as well.

I still hope they can manage to locate the source code for Icewind Dale 2 but that isn't looking too good.

[nick68k]

Ichigo27, on 24 November 2017 - 02:45 AM, said:

I hope this means I could run it under 10.10.11.

10.9 or later is required according to the release notes. Congratulations!

Incidentally, the NWN:EE beta/early access is available via the 'head start' program. Details here.

[nick68k]

DirtyHarry50, on 25 November 2017 - 04:25 PM, said:

I still hope they can manage to locate the source code for Icewind Dale 2 but that isn't looking too good.

Completely MIA from what I understand. That said, GoG sell a wrapped version of IWD2 for the Mac that works without issue. It's not an EE, but hey.

[DirtyHarry50]

nick68k, on 26 November 2017 - 09:07 AM, said:

Completely MIA from what I understand. That said, GoG sell a wrapped version of IWD2 for the Mac that works without issue. It's not an EE, but hey.

Yeah, I own the GOG version. I wonder if they ever got around to wrapping it up for Linux. I'm sure I can do that myself though if need be. Since I am well behind in the games I want to play, I'm content to wait and hope on this one but if it never happens I'll get to it one way or another assuming I live long enough.

Just checked. I don't think GOG's in any hurry to do it up for Linux. If I do, maybe I'll send it to them. Maybe... you know what they say about the best laid plans.

[UmarOMC1]

A Steam link popped up, including macOS system requirements. Nice.

[clocknova]

Why the hell, after all these years, can't they just make a simple port of the toolset to Mac?  It would probably take someone half an hour.  If the game runs, the toolset will.  This is just silly.  Just hit the Mac switch in the compiler and do it.

[UmarOMC1]

clocknova, on 24 December 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

Why the hell, after all these years, can't they just make a simple port of the toolset to Mac?  It would probably take someone half an hour.  If the game runs, the toolset will.  This is just silly.  Just hit the Mac switch in the compiler and do it.

Worked for me when compiling Half Life 3 from Source code. Pffft!

[elowel]

clocknova, on 24 December 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

Why the hell, after all these years, can't they just make a simple port of the toolset to Mac?  It would probably take someone half an hour.  If the game runs, the toolset will.  This is just silly.  Just hit the Mac switch in the compiler and do it.

The toolset was originally written using a Borland IDE, which only targets Windows. Releasing on Mac/Linux would involve rebuilding the entire toolset in a new cross-platform IDE, which is outside of the scope of the Enhanced Edition.

[Thain Esh Kelch]

2 hours then!

[DirtyHarry50]

I know, Virtual Programming should do the toolset. It'll take just a few minutes. It'll run like it took just a few minutes too. Well, if it runs at all that is. Expect a very long experimental beta phase and I do mean very long...

[DirtyHarry50]

clocknova, on 24 December 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

Why the hell, after all these years, can't they just make a simple port of the toolset to Mac?  It would probably take someone half an hour.  If the game runs, the toolset will.  This is just silly.  Just hit the Mac switch in the compiler and do it.

This is nowhere as simple as you are imagining unfortunately. People often mistakenly underestimate what is involved in software development where there are pretty much no trivial projects.