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#21 ipickert55

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 07:19 PM

Don't mean to derail this but I've gotta let it out, i just saw Fury Road and holy crap that movie was amazing. I've gotta play this game now.
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Posted 27 October 2016 - 08:07 PM

Don't watch everything wrong with Fury Road!  Still, it was awesome.
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Posted 28 October 2016 - 02:40 PM

View Postthe Battle Cat, on 27 October 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Don't watch everything wrong with Fury Road!  Still, it was awesome.

I stopped watching those a long time ago. I'm already so damn cynical, I don't need that channel ruining every movie for me.
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Posted 29 October 2016 - 09:44 AM

I'm there for the humor.
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Posted 29 October 2016 - 10:48 AM

Anyone tried this yet on an unsupported GPU?  

i.e will it just be a little buggy or will it refuse to run or even worse panic the machine?

I'm particularly interest in reports from any other Radeon 7950 owners?

Feral seems to black list nearly all AMD chips and Steam says R9 290 or GTX680 minimum - I assume the first must refer to the mobility version from the 5K iMac (?) which looks similar in specs to the 7950 Mac Edition and with a GTX680 even the desktop one is only maybe 15 to 20% more powerful.

Only recently realised my 7950 was unsupported in anything when firing up COH2 and that at least just gives an error on launch. It seemed to run just fine in Sierra as far as I can tell.

Mad Max is on sale this weekend so any feedback is appreciated.

I have been half thinking about it but it seems a little over the top to buy a GTX 680 and sell this card on for just a couple of games.

Plug an play with a boot screen is important for me as I don't have Windows and need hassle free software updates which limits my options.
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Posted 29 October 2016 - 12:16 PM

I had an off-the-shelf GTX680 for over a year, there's a boot screen, no software required, but of course you'll want to install NVIDIA's optimized WebDrivers for gaming.
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Posted 29 October 2016 - 12:20 PM

Did anyone try Mad Max on a MacBook Pro?

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 02:40 PM

View PostUmarOMC1, on 29 October 2016 - 12:16 PM, said:

I had an off-the-shelf GTX680 for over a year, there's a boot screen, no software required, but of course you'll want to install NVIDIA's optimized WebDrivers for gaming.

Thanks - I'm aware the GTX680 was available in a Mac version (2GB) with EFI, and even 4GB PC cards can be flashed for a boot screen.

The reasons I went with the 7950 at the time a few years back was that there was a fair price difference and some bugs in the NVIDIA drivers - Apple had gone AMD across the range and generally I'd had good experiences before. It has been a good card with the exception of some random flickering/flashing doing simple stuff like web browsing.

I know some folks are running GTX970, 980 etc. using web drivers only with standard PC Cards or a few with custom EFI mods to these but I prefer it to just work with OS updates (my an early adopter) and without swapping out any hardware, plus there is a large price premium - makes a Mac EFI modded card far more than I ever paid for a GPU.

I'm not sure the GTX680 is enough of a step forward to justify it as an upgrade now but it may have to be on compatibility grounds if this is likely to be the case with more new titles going forward and I end up running this machine a few more years.

That is now looking quite likely for me as it seems Apple are continuing their move away from desktops in general - I guess there is a chance for the iMac to meet my needs with the next update but I don't expect any miracles with the GPU i.e a mobility chip for low TDP and thin..., and then there is cost.

It was bad enough looking at paying as much for an non-upgradable machine as I paid for my Mac Pro back in 2009 as it meant total cost of ownership was going to be far higher - no way I could expect the same lifespan from an all in one either. Now with the exchange rate there have been substantial price rises over here as well - a lot down to speculators more than politics in reality but it's likely to take while to go the other way as Apple rarely change pricing points.
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Posted 30 October 2016 - 04:24 AM

No, I didn't have a Mac version and it wasn't flashed. Like I stated, of-the-shelf GTX680. Worked, boot screen and all.
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Posted 30 October 2016 - 09:57 AM

UmarOMC1, there's absolutely no way a non-flashed PC GTX 680 card can provide a bootscreen by itself, because it lacks an EFI ROM. If there's another, supported card in the Mac Pro, like an Apple issued or flashed GT120, that may work (I'm not sure if the bootscreen is shown only if there's a monitor connected to the GT120 or not), but I guarantee any single PC card (GTX 680 or other) won't display anything before the driver is loaded. I did flash a GTX 680 myself, so I've got first hand experience there.

mattw, if you don't want the hassle of non boot screen cards, I'd recommend getting a used PC 680 and flash it yourself. Because paying $250 for a used preflashed 680 is way too expensive for a four years old card, which you can find used for $100. Warning though: if the only card you have is the 7950, you're in trouble for flashing the 680, because the latter won't power up without two power cable connected, the Mac only has two, and the 7950 needs one or two also. So either you also have a small Mac card which doesn't need external power, or you can borrow a PC tower for an hour.

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 10:13 AM

Yeah I only have the 7950 as I always sold on my previous cards 4870 and 5870 when upgrading. I don't have Windows either to run the flashing utility so if I go that way it's either pay a premium, try and convince someone with a PC to do it or buy everything needed. Kinda hoping some more recent Polaris cards become an option.
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Posted 30 October 2016 - 04:06 PM

View Postipickert55, on 27 October 2016 - 07:19 PM, said:

Don't mean to derail this but I've gotta let it out, i just saw Fury Road and holy crap that movie was amazing. I've gotta play this game now.

I was sure they were going to frak up Mad Max like every reboot fraks up everything these days (with a few notable exceptions like BSG where the reboot ends up even better than the source material). I went to the movie anyway with my dad. We both loved the popsnizzle out of it.

Fitting that the game, then, also bucks the trend of movie tie-in games being terrible by being super awesome.
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Posted 31 October 2016 - 01:58 AM

View PostFrost, on 30 October 2016 - 04:06 PM, said:

I was sure they were going to frak up Mad Max like every reboot fraks up everything these days (with a few notable exceptions like BSG where the reboot ends up even better than the source material). I went to the movie anyway with my dad. We both loved the popsnizzle out of it.
I also was extremely sceptical when they announced a new Mad Max after all these time, but then every new thing I heard about it (e.g. focus on practical effects and stunts over CGI) and every successive trailer diminished my doubts. The final result then turned out to be my favourite action movie of the last decade or so.

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Posted 31 October 2016 - 08:26 AM

It was really a decent flick I gotta say. Michael Bay should learn something from it.

And I agree with frost, that amazingly a game spinoff was good for once.

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 09:07 AM

For what it's worth I just picked the game up in the Steam sale as it was finally cheap enough for me to take a risk that I might not be able to run it until I upgraded my hardware.

Despite the warning message about my machine being unsupported it seems however to run just fine on my upgraded 09 Mac Pro with Radeon 7950 on Sierra 10.12.2 so far (played about 70 minutes).

I just set the resolution to 1440p and left the default graphics settings. I don't know what bugs there are supposed to be and will play around turning on some of the extra graphical effects but it was certainly smooth enough and didn't look too bad either.
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Posted 24 December 2016 - 05:06 AM

I also got Mad Max now during Feral's MAS sale.
I was pleasantly surprised to not see a message pop up saying my MacBook Pro was unsupported, even though my CPU does not fulfil the minimum requirements.
I'll try the default settings on 1050p, let's see how it runs.

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 05:26 AM

So far it seems they were either being over cautious or whatever Radeon driver bugs existed in development now have work arounds?

After reading a PC tuning guide which said most of the graphical options could be enabled with minimal performance hits even on medium to low end PC I tried turned on the other graphics options except for the two they mentioned do effect performance - SSAO and Landscape Debris.

The game does look a little better now and I can't say the performance is noticeably any worse.
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Posted 08 February 2017 - 05:58 PM

View PostMr Pink, on 29 October 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

Did anyone try Mad Max on a MacBook Pro?

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