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#1 Sneaky Snake

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 10:01 AM

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Apple has determined that graphics cards in some late 2013 Mac Pros, manufactured between February 8, 2015 and April 11, 2015, may cause distorted video, no video, system instability, freezing, restarts, shut downs, or may prevent system start up.

Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider will repair eligible Mac Pro models affected by the video issues free of charge. Customers can book an appointment with the Genius Bar at an Apple Store or visit an Apple Authorized Service Provider to determine if their Mac Pro is eligible for coverage.

Apple seems to have a tough time getting graphics cards to work with their hardware designs.

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 10:08 AM

At least for them, it was a short manufacturing run. And well, how many would really buy a machine in 2015 and now, that still says "Late 2013" in About this Mac? :P

(...Yeah, I know. Plenty. It is that sad)
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Posted 06 February 2016 - 10:15 AM

I'm starting to buy Sneaky Snake's theory on Apple doing away with discrete GPUs as much as possibru.
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Posted 06 February 2016 - 10:20 AM

View Postmacdude22, on 06 February 2016 - 10:15 AM, said:

I'm starting to buy Sneaky Snake's theory on Apple doing away with discrete GPUs as much as possibru.

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 12:32 PM

Yeah, they really need to do something about that rear bulge on the iMacs so they can just be wall mounted.

It wouldn't surprise me to see all integrated coming up soon aside of the Mac Pro. The Macs only need enough GPU power for applications and iOS ports using Metal down the road along with whatever few other games may use Metal until it matures further.
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Posted 06 February 2016 - 01:19 PM

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 06 February 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:

Yeah, they really need to do something about that rear bulge on the iMacs so they can just be wall mounted.


You can get iMacs with a VESA mount, we get them at the herpspital to mount on monitor arms.
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Posted 06 February 2016 - 03:21 PM

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 06 February 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:

It wouldn't surprise me to see all integrated coming up soon aside of the Mac Pro. The Macs only need enough GPU power for applications and iOS ports using Metal down the road along with whatever few other games may use Metal until it matures further.

This is essentially already the reality. The only macs with GPU's are:
  • The top specced, ultra expensive, 15" retina (the base 15" retina MBP uses integrated)
  • The 27" 5K iMac
  • The Mac Pro
Those three computers likely represent less then 10% of their Mac sales with the vast majority being 13" rMBP, MBA's, 2015 Macbooks and base model iMacs.
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Posted 07 February 2016 - 01:09 AM

Why does integrated GPUs seem less prone to recalls? Intel quality, or something else?
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Posted 07 February 2016 - 02:12 AM

Probably part of it. Also, there are less components involved (no GPU, VRAM, memory controller, power controller, etc.), so this must reduce chance of failures.

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Posted 07 February 2016 - 05:31 AM

View PostThain Esh Kelch, on 07 February 2016 - 01:09 AM, said:

Why does integrated GPUs seem less prone to recalls? Intel quality, or something else?
NVIDIA and AMD don't seem to be having this problem constantly on the PC side.

I'm wondering what's up at Apple's manufacturing. They seem to have problems when they're soldering other people's GPUs onto their motherboard designs.
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Posted 07 February 2016 - 06:23 AM

My guess would be the majority of CPU issues with Macs are related to heat within the confines of Apple designs causing failures more than any other single problem. I realize the designs attempt to account for heat dissipation in creative ways such as the iMac backs but I am guessing it isn't enough. Those components just tend to run too hot under load to survive within the confines of very thin laptops and AiO systems.

EDIT: DOH! I meant GPU issues, not CPU issues.
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Posted 07 February 2016 - 10:44 AM

You would hope that as GPUs get more efficient cooling and reliability due to it would be less of an issue but it's more likely that instead we will just get thinner and thinner designs....

There are plenty of us that would prefer more cooling and easy access to change components but I don't see it happening anymore with Apple hardware designs.
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