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Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:05 AM

I got "upgraded" from a 1.5Mbps to a 3Mbps connection recently and mountain lion only took a couple of hours (or it seemed that way anyway.... maybe four hours at most) to download and then about 20 minutes to make a USB thumb drive with. Then about 40 minutes to install. Didn't take very much time at all.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 05:06 AM

Just about everything I'm running in Mountain Lion is noticeably faster than in Lion. This is probably the biggest bump in speed I've seen solely from upgrading the OS since the jump from 10.2 to 10.3. Chief of which is Safari 6, which is blazing.

No problems so far other than my version of Parallels being out of date and therefore incompatible with 10.8, requiring me to go hunting for an update since I couldn't start it to autoupdate.

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When there's a multiplayer version, I'm going to be on Frost's team. Well, except he doesn't seem to actually need a team...I mean, what's the point? "Hey look, it's Frost and His Merry Gang of Useless Hangers-On!" Or something.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:19 AM

View Postjgwdoc, on 25 July 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

No Lions for me.
Snow Leopard 4 ever.
Or at least till I'm absolutely forced.

you don't know what you're saying, Lion was already much more better than Snow Leopard and has a lot of minor features which rocks. But speaking of gaming about everygame i've tried under Lion (benchmarked i mean) is faster than Snow Leopard, so speaking with gaming in mind, you MUST update you OS to Mountain Lion to have better 3D drivers and new OpenGL.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:26 AM

Frost ... You can't download ammo over your DSL line? What the hell backwards state are you living in, man?  :blink:

Anyhow, game-wise I haven't had a chance to review. I downloaded overnight and installed this AM before going to work. Noted that Transmit 4.1.7 and Snapz Pro 2 were not compatible but haven't had time to fix. Will test with games over next few nights and report any oddities.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:00 AM

View Postikir, on 26 July 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

you don't know what you're saying, Lion was already much more better than Snow Leopard and has a lot of minor features which rocks.
To be honest, I would be with jgwdoc if my Mac mini wouldn't have to run Lion in the first place: having both Snow Leopard on my Macbook and (Mountain) Lion on my mini, I can say that there is more about Lion that annoys me than new features I find useful. Actually, the only two new features I like about Lion are the ability to resize windows from any part of the border and the ability for delta updates and in-app purchases (for DLC and expansions in games) in the MAS. No kidding.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 11:48 AM

View PostDaveyJJ, on 25 July 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

It'd be better if Safari easily supported DuckDuckGo and other search engines.

I love DuckDuckGo. Any ideas how to get it back with the omnibox yet? I think I had Glims installed to add it to Safari before...

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:02 PM

View PostFrost, on 26 July 2012 - 02:41 AM, said:

When everybody's got 50 megabit connections and servers can serve up data that fast even when there's high demand, I'll be onboard with the downloadable-only people. Until then, download-only for multigigabyte stuff = blah.

We're basically at the start of this era, the US is on average however a few years behind many countries.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:32 PM

View Postteflon, on 26 July 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

I love DuckDuckGo. Any ideas how to get it back with the omnibox yet? I think I had Glims installed to add it to Safari before...

Glims doesn't seem to work. I'll test my tried-true method of using the Languages pref pane and adding "ddg SPACE" typed in to mean "http://duckduckgo.com/?q=" and use that. I really really despise Apple for making it so very difficult to add custom search engines. If FF had a better UI and/or Chrome wasn't made by the "don't not do evil" company, I'd use one of them. Maybe go to Iron browser (a more secure branch of Chromium, when I'm not using Tor's outdated version of FF).

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:49 PM

View PostJanichsan, on 26 July 2012 - 07:00 AM, said:

To be honest, I would be with jgwdoc if my Mac mini wouldn't have to run Lion in the first place: having both Snow Leopard on my Macbook and (Mountain) Lion on my mini, I can say that there is more about Lion that annoys me than new features I find useful. Actually, the only two new features I like about Lion are the ability to resize windows from any part of the border and the ability for delta updates and in-app purchases (for DLC and expansions in games) in the MAS. No kidding.
You'll love Mountain Lion. If you don't use the sidebar, the little button in the upper right to make it go away, which affects subsequently opened windows as well, is gone, and you have to drag the sidebar closed in every. single. folder. What's more, once you rearrange some icons, if you are used to clicking the resize button to cut the window down to only the side it needs to be, you'll now have it jutting way out to the side to account for a search window in every Finder window. Even if you have the toolbar hidden and the search bar removed. Meaning you have to resize every. single. folder. manually.

The awesome dock that's been around since Leopard has also been turned a stark grayish white, and the circular lights under running apps has turned to a thin little white bar. Which seems like just an aesthetic change at first, except that the moment you want to use a quick glance or peripheral vision to see which apps are open, you can't, because it blends in between the dock and the silver frame of the screen (if on a laptop). Meh.

Next thing I do is hunt to see if you can undo the "improvements" in any of the preferences.

Still like everything else about Mountain Lion, but the Finder is a step backwards overall IMO.

Actually, wait, no. Not just Finder. Launchpad too. The FIRST thing I did when I got Mountain Lion was hit up the Launchpad to see if I could get rid of the pile of useless unremovable links. Nope. They're still stuck there, still necessitating a "Trash" folder inside Launchpad where all the unwanted app icons go. Yay. I hardly ever touch launchpad anyway, but it turning into the Mac equivalent of the average Windows user's desktop with a giant pile of aliases everywhere is not exactly encouraging me to start. At least you can zap the aliases in Windows.

EDIT: My other major annoyance, "Scroll direction: Natural" for the mouse preference pane and the trackpad preference pane are still tied together. So, still going into system preferences to toggle it manually every time I switch between the trackpad and mouse.
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When there's a multiplayer version, I'm going to be on Frost's team. Well, except he doesn't seem to actually need a team...I mean, what's the point? "Hey look, it's Frost and His Merry Gang of Useless Hangers-On!" Or something.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:58 PM

View PostFrost, on 26 July 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

You'll love Mountain Lion. If you don't use the sidebar, the little button in the upper right to make it go away, which affects subsequently opened windows as well, is gone, and you have to drag the sidebar closed in every. single. folder.
That the lozenge is gone isn't new (that already was the case in Lion) and unless they haven't changed that in ML, you get the same effect as clicking it by either right (or control) clicking on the toolbar of a Finder window and selecting "Hide Toolbar" or hiding it from the "View" menu.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:07 PM

Ah good. I guess I didn't even notice because Lion didn't force the sidebar back into my face in all my folders, whereas Mountain Lion is. Okay, that's one annoyance down. The resizing leaving a big white blank space jutting out to the side on a bunch of folders still isn't cool though.
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When there's a multiplayer version, I'm going to be on Frost's team. Well, except he doesn't seem to actually need a team...I mean, what's the point? "Hey look, it's Frost and His Merry Gang of Useless Hangers-On!" Or something.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:14 PM

View PostDaveyJJ, on 26 July 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Glims doesn't seem to work. I'll test my tried-true method of using the Languages pref pane and adding "ddg SPACE" typed in to mean "http://duckduckgo.com/?q=" and use that.

I'm sure the search options are just defined by and xml/plist somewhere in the .app bundle, should be identifiable and editable.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 02:25 PM

The reason some of the US mirrors might have been slow: http://gigaom.com/20...tworks-traffic/

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:12 PM

Took me 16 minutes to download. Apparently my 25/25 connection thought it was a 60/25. Cant complain about that!

Only downloaded it to my Mac Mini since ML should remove some screen sleep issues, which are annoying on a media center.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:25 PM

Uhh...

Disk Utility said:

Verifying volume “Chromium”
Checking file systemPerforming live verification.
Checking Journaled HFS Plus volume.
Checking extents overflow file.
Checking catalog file.
Checking multi-linked files.
Incorrect number of file hard links
Checking catalog hierarchy.
Invalid directory item count
(It should be 20412 instead of 20413)
Invalid directory item count
(It should be 46 instead of 45)
Checking extended attributes file.
Checking volume bitmap.
Checking volume information.
The volume Chromium was found corrupt and needs to be repaired.
Error: This disk needs to be repaired using the Recovery HD. Restart your computer, holding down the Command key and the R key until you see the Apple logo. When the OS X Utilities window appears, choose Disk Utility.

That was not there on my verify done last night prior to installing Mountain Lion. If you just installed 10.8 you might want to check your disk just incase.

EDIT: It can't repair it. Looks like I'm backing up to my G5 and restoring the disk.  :blink:
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Eric5h5:
When there's a multiplayer version, I'm going to be on Frost's team. Well, except he doesn't seem to actually need a team...I mean, what's the point? "Hey look, it's Frost and His Merry Gang of Useless Hangers-On!" Or something.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:34 PM

Sounds like a singular hard link screw up, might be OS related or not. Any reason you didn't use the recovery partition as suggested?

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:46 PM

View PostHansi, on 26 July 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

Sounds like a singular hard link screw up, might be OS related or not. Any reason you didn't use the recovery partition as suggested?
I did. It can't repair it.
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When there's a multiplayer version, I'm going to be on Frost's team. Well, except he doesn't seem to actually need a team...I mean, what's the point? "Hey look, it's Frost and His Merry Gang of Useless Hangers-On!" Or something.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:54 PM

Did it list it?

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:59 PM

Okay, so booting as a Target Disk and checking it via 10.5.8 on my G5 revealed no problems, and booting from my Lion USB stick revealed no problems and both gave it a clean bill of health. Meanwhile Mountain Lion's Disk Utility, both from within the OS and from the recovery partition thinks there's a problem.

Interesting.

I'm inclined to believe Leopard and Lion for the moment, but I'll still do a backup to my 1.5TB on the G5. Just incase.
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When there's a multiplayer version, I'm going to be on Frost's team. Well, except he doesn't seem to actually need a team...I mean, what's the point? "Hey look, it's Frost and His Merry Gang of Useless Hangers-On!" Or something.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 05:06 PM

Well it's a single hard link that's about as likely to cause a problem as skipping a stone on a pond and hitting the Loch Ness in the head.