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#1 DrJohnFever

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 03:13 PM

I was thinking about getting a gaming mouse soon.  Which one is best for the money?  I have had the DeathAdder suggested by a very smart man, but I would like more than one opinion before I make a decision.  I mainly play SC2 if that matters at all.

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 06:47 PM

I like my Logitec G5 mouse.  A lot.  It's sort of aged so there might be more worthy successors out there.
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Posted 26 September 2010 - 07:12 PM

Dunno what the current equivalent is (most likely G500) but my MX510 and MX518 have always been great.

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 09:49 PM

The G9 is the new G5 I think. I'll re-recommend the death adder here though :P I've used it happily for over a year with no complaints
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Posted 27 September 2010 - 08:56 AM

Its hard to find a mouse you like. You will no doubt, end up buying a couple, or few, returning some and selling others off. The problem is, everyone's hand is different, their gestures, their preferred grip style (tBC keep the sex jokes away please lol). So when you get opinions from others, its to be taken with that in mind.

The most you can prolly get out of this, is a pool of high quality mice (that are made well, and respond well with their software being done properly). Then, you have to just gamble on which to start with, and hope you hit it right from the start.

I went through five mice before settling on the Death Adder for my PC, and I STILL use my old Logitech Wheel Mouse for my mac.... and yes, it still has balls.

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 09:34 AM

I've got a Deathadder as well, like it a lot. Only good for righties though.
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Posted 27 September 2010 - 12:50 PM

View PostFrigidman, on 27 September 2010 - 08:56 AM, said:

their preferred grip style (tBC keep the sex jokes away please lol).
Dang!  You beat me to the sex joke!!
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Posted 27 September 2010 - 01:44 PM

View PostPeopleLikeFrank, on 27 September 2010 - 09:34 AM, said:

I've got a Deathadder as well, like it a lot. Only good for righties though.

They make a designated left hand edition as well
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Posted 27 September 2010 - 03:34 PM

View PostFrigidman, on 27 September 2010 - 08:56 AM, said:

their preferred grip style (tBC keep the sex jokes away please lol)
You know you're in a cool forum when the admin has to be warned of this.  :D
And to everyone: why the deathadder and not razer's other mice? And I am right handed (when it comes to mice), so I could care less if they are only for right handers.

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 01:40 AM

Logitech MX518. Cheap and great for gaming.
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:16 AM

Right now I have an okay wireless Logitech M510 that I've had for over a year now. Despite it utilizing a laser sensor its tracking accuracy leaves something to be desired, which is readily apparent in any FPS - I'm sure it being wireless degrades accuracy on top of that. Hell, I played a lot better with an older (wired) Logitech trackball I had... before it decided to die on me one day.

So I've been giving thought to picking up a real gaming mouse, and the Razor mice really do seem to be some of the best available. My choice would be either the Imperator or Naga. I'm not sure though whether the latter's buttons would help more or just get in the way...
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:12 AM

After reading a bunch of user reviews I wonder whether it would actually be worth considering the Deathadder instead. It seems like it's not uncommon for people to turn down the sensitivity in the higher-end models as 5600dpi seems too sensitive for a good few folks, who turn it down to Deathadder levels. So I suppose 3500dpi is still plenty good. Any thoughts?
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 01:45 PM

View PostPegasus, on 15 October 2010 - 11:12 AM, said:

After reading a bunch of user reviews I wonder whether it would actually be worth considering the Deathadder instead. It seems like it's not uncommon for people to turn down the sensitivity in the higher-end models as 5600dpi seems too sensitive for a good few folks, who turn it down to Deathadder levels. So I suppose 3500dpi is still plenty good. Any thoughts?
I honestly never understood the glitz surrounding 'dpi' and 'polling rate'.

1) When I raise my polling rate, games response to the mouse become erratic at best, some games coming to complete halts with serious lag-time associated. Known issue for some games, others, its just a general problem with polling the USB faster than anything is expecting it to happen.

2) Running at 1800 dpi or 450 dpi, I notice ZERO smoothness in response and games. Actually, when I crank it to 1800, I have to drag most in-game mouse sensitivity sliders all the way down to 1 or 2, because just touching the mouse makes my character spin in circles.

3) There is absolutely no way I can aim a sniper gun when just one millimeter of mouse pad makes me do a 180.

I dont know how people can like being completely out of control with just a little bit of mouse movement. I guess I am old school, in that I 'feel' the game through the jotting and jerking of the mouse. I know if I 'flip it this much, I will end up in that direction'. None of this is done in a square millimeter of my mouse pad.

Also, when the sensativity (dpi) is so high, it doesnt get smoother. It is flying all over the place, the ability to make smooth precise movements is lost. This gets really bad when any game has an interface and mouse cursor. "Woop! missed the button!"  "Whoah! Went to the other side of the screen cause I twitched!" No thanks.

What I want, is much more smooth reaction. Unfortunately many games just don't have smooth controls like that, and its no fault of the mouse... its just the game. But even in games with great mouse control, like Source engines, or even older Q3 based engines, its just not any smoother with 450dpi or 3500dpi.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 03:29 PM

Amen!!!

Once you get above a certain amount of dpi (a few hundred) it literally makes zero difference. It be like buying a Mac Pro for web browsing over a Mac Mini
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 06:10 PM

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:04 PM

View PostPegasus, on 15 October 2010 - 11:12 AM, said:

After reading a bunch of user reviews I wonder whether it would actually be worth considering the Deathadder instead. It seems like it's not uncommon for people to turn down the sensitivity in the higher-end models as 5600dpi seems too sensitive for a good few folks, who turn it down to Deathadder levels. So I suppose 3500dpi is still plenty good. Any thoughts?

I have a Deathadder …and lost of other people do too. It seems the specifications of it are easily good enough for what most people would need. I think the only real downside to some other mice by Razor is the fact that it generally has less buttons than its counterparts. A counterpoint to that is whether people actually need more than five buttons, I know I generally do not use all of them. I think the real plus to the Deathadder is its price compared to other more contemporary mice of similar design.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:32 PM

Thanks for the clarification, Frigidman. Frankly, I never was that knowledgeable about how much dpi really matters. It definitely will make my decision a bit easier.

Still, that said, no matter what my current mouse's actual dpi is (which I am not sure about) I do know as mentioned before is that my performance has dropped a fair bit since I switched to this mouse. I'm willing to give the Deathadder a shot just to get a smoother experience.
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Posted 16 October 2010 - 10:35 AM

View PostPegasus, on 15 October 2010 - 10:32 PM, said:

Thanks for the clarification, Frigidman. Frankly, I never was that knowledgeable about how much dpi really matters. It definitely will make my decision a bit easier.

Still, that said, no matter what my current mouse's actual dpi is (which I am not sure about) I do know as mentioned before is that my performance has dropped a fair bit since I switched to this mouse. I'm willing to give the Deathadder a shot just to get a smoother experience.
I used to play with a ball mouse for a long time. When switching to optic (laser, g3, whatever they wanna call it now)... my abilities dropped like a rock. The whole feel was off. I never knew when I was touching the pad or not (in terms of response). With a ball, you know when you are touching the pad if the ball is going to move, and thus register in the game as movement. With optics, you can be floating over the pad, not physically feeling any 'touch' yet you are moving around in the game.

One thing I did like with the deathadder over a couple other mice I tried, was, the 'lift range' was VERY small. Meaning, after a tiny smidge of lift, the mouse would stop registering movement. One other mouse I had, forgot which, think it was a logitech g9 or something? ... anyhow, I had to lift the mouse a good HALF INCH off the pad before it stopped jerking my character around. Drove me nuts, couldn't stand that (plus my wrist was screaming bloody murder).

I've now gotten very used to this deathadder though. And now know what to expect with what kind of hand movement. It still touches the inner heal of my thumb, due to design of the mouse body... and it still irritates me a bit, but its not so bad as it originally was. "Feel" takes time to get over when changing devices.

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 04:16 AM

DeAthAddEr r tha besst :nods: :mellow:

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 08:22 AM

View PostFrigidman, on 16 October 2010 - 10:35 AM, said:

I've now gotten very used to this deathadder though. And now know what to expect with what kind of hand movement. It still touches the inner heal of my thumb, due to design of the mouse body... and it still irritates me a bit, but its not so bad as it originally was. "Feel" takes time to get over when changing devices.
Yeah, when I first tried AMG's Deathadder out, it was a pretty bloody weird experience (I was also play AC at the time). I'm over the completely odd initial feel of the mouse, and I now consider myself a "palm" person. I like my whole hand resting on the mouse. I think it goes with my style. I can defenitely say that the Deathadder's design will not be for everyone, as it is more discriminatory than most mice in the market, because of how large it is, and the fact that it is right handed only.

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