Jump to content


RAGE


  • Please log in to reply
175 replies to this topic

#41 Sargiel

Sargiel

    Legendary

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 909 posts
  • Location:West Sussex, England

Posted 03 June 2011 - 02:21 PM

I liked this video a lot more than the last one! Looks very promising :)

#42 Thain Esh Kelch

Thain Esh Kelch

    Admin

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3780 posts
  • Steam ID:thaineshkelch
  • Location:Denmark

Posted 03 June 2011 - 03:06 PM

The facial animations doesn't really impress me.. Doesn't seem like they have moved a lot since ID Tech 4. Especially not compared to L. A. Noire..
"They're everywhere!" -And now, time for some Legend of Zelda.

iMac 2011, quad 3,4Ghz i7, 1TB Samsung EVO 840, 8GB RAM, 2GB Radeon 6970m. + 2016 Macbook m3 + iPad 2 64GB + iPhone 4S 64GB + Girlfriend + Daughter

#43 Smoke_Tetsu

Smoke_Tetsu

    Uberspewer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3318 posts
  • Steam Name:Tetsu Jutsu
  • Steam ID:smoke_tetsu
  • Location:Cyberspace

Posted 03 June 2011 - 04:09 PM

Yes the facial animations are the weakness of the trailer and I was actually just telling someone just five minutes ago it's NO LA Noire. Although to be honest that seemed to be more due to the technology Rockstar made outside of the engine like their capturing studios than anything but yeah. Also some of the textures where pretty low res especially on the machinery... the gauges where blurry and you couldn't make them out.... and here I thought the revision of megatextures was going to allow crazy stuff to be done with textures. But other than that the trailer looked stellar.
--Tetsuo

Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:

It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.

the Battle Cat said:

Slower and faster? I'm sorry to hear such good news?

Late 2012 27 inch iMac, Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB, 3TB HDD - Mavericks

Late 2009 27 inch iMac, Core i5 2.6GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon 4850HD 512MB, 1TB HDD - Mavericks

Mac Mini, PowerPC G4 1.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200 32MB, 256GB HDD - Leopard

Dell Inspiron 1200 Notebook: 1.2GHz Celeron, 1.2GB RAM, Intel GMA915, 75GB HDD - Ubuntu

Generic Black Tower PC, Dual Core 64-bit 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT 512MB - Windows 7


#44 UmarOMC1

UmarOMC1

    Legendary

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1425 posts
  • Location:NYC

Posted 03 June 2011 - 10:52 PM

Yeah, you guys have a point about the facial animations... because I want to be able to tell if the humanoid was a liar when I interview him after I've killed him...



:bleedingeyes: <—OMG he was telling the truth! :(
macOS 10.13.x/Windows 7 Pro/2009 MacPro 4,1 Xeon W3580 3.33GHz/16GB RAM/EVGA GTX1070 8GB

#45 Sargiel

Sargiel

    Legendary

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 909 posts
  • Location:West Sussex, England

Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:51 PM

I thought you'd want to see facial expressions just to appreciate their reactions when you've blown a leg/arm/random body part off with a shotgun ?  :devil: Ahem. Or perhaps it's not that necessary afterall :)

Or no-one is stupid enough to lie to you ?

#46 Smoke_Tetsu

Smoke_Tetsu

    Uberspewer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3318 posts
  • Steam Name:Tetsu Jutsu
  • Steam ID:smoke_tetsu
  • Location:Cyberspace

Posted 04 June 2011 - 02:10 AM

Good facial animations isn't just for detecting who is lying to you it also helps the immersion factor for the animations to be realistic and the face is one of the most if not the most important body parts when it comes to animating a character. It just stood out to me that almost everything looked really good except for the facial animations in this "next gen" game. It's not game breaking but it would help with the realism if they would work on it. To say "You don't have to detect who is lying to you good facial animations are unnecessary" is facetious. Obviously you'll be able to talk to characters in town and various places and it would only be better if they had some better facial animation.
--Tetsuo

Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:

It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.

the Battle Cat said:

Slower and faster? I'm sorry to hear such good news?

Late 2012 27 inch iMac, Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB, 3TB HDD - Mavericks

Late 2009 27 inch iMac, Core i5 2.6GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon 4850HD 512MB, 1TB HDD - Mavericks

Mac Mini, PowerPC G4 1.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200 32MB, 256GB HDD - Leopard

Dell Inspiron 1200 Notebook: 1.2GHz Celeron, 1.2GB RAM, Intel GMA915, 75GB HDD - Ubuntu

Generic Black Tower PC, Dual Core 64-bit 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT 512MB - Windows 7


#47 UmarOMC1

UmarOMC1

    Legendary

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1425 posts
  • Location:NYC

Posted 04 June 2011 - 03:28 AM

View PostSmoke_Tetsu, on 04 June 2011 - 02:10 AM, said:

To say "You don't have to detect who is lying to you good facial animations are unnecessary" is facetious. Obviously you'll be able to talk to characters in town and various places and it would only be better if they had some better facial animation.

I'm being facetious? No! No wayyyy! Sure you can talk to characters in town (read; "listen to character monologue" :nods: ) but, unlike the given comparison with L.A. Noire, you don't have RAGE's storyline affected by whether you've chosen to believe said character is lying, telling the truth or doubtful in his testimony to you... do you?

No.

Character facial animation in RAGE simply does not play the part it does in L.A. Noire— the detail in facial animation is simply a necessity for the latter's success and not the former's.

Here's a video displaying and comparing the PS3 and XBOX 360 versions of L.A. Noire. After watching that you might want to watch the RAGE trailer again... ask yourself; Where's the detail? RAGE's detail is in the world itself... L.A. Noire doesn't look bad by any means but it doesn't hold a flame to the magnitude of detail and variety seen within the first minute of the RAGE trailer.
macOS 10.13.x/Windows 7 Pro/2009 MacPro 4,1 Xeon W3580 3.33GHz/16GB RAM/EVGA GTX1070 8GB

#48 Smoke_Tetsu

Smoke_Tetsu

    Uberspewer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3318 posts
  • Steam Name:Tetsu Jutsu
  • Steam ID:smoke_tetsu
  • Location:Cyberspace

Posted 04 June 2011 - 10:29 AM

I'm not saying the graphics in Rage are bad just the facial animation system could be worked on and it wouldn't hurt the gameplay in any way and it would only help make it look more realistic so I don't see why you are putting up so much resistance to the idea of it. Sure it doesn't matter to the gameplay but then again you could say the same thing about higher resolution or any other graphical improvements. Either way unless they change it the idea isn't going to make any difference whatsoever I just think it would be a nice touch. Ubisoft is making a similar system for their games and they don't all hinge upon telling the truth or not better character animation is just another step to realism in games. The next Assassin's Creed is going to feature Ubisoft's version of that type of facial animation for example. There's going to be a time when all games that go for the realism angle have realistic facial animation as standard issue whether or not you need to tell if they are lying or not and this conversation will be a distant, silly memory. Games have already started using motion capture for the faces and that's just an evolution of it. Realistic portrayal of human performances with all its nuances isn't just about a lying or not lying gameplay mechanic.
--Tetsuo

Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:

It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.

the Battle Cat said:

Slower and faster? I'm sorry to hear such good news?

Late 2012 27 inch iMac, Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB, 3TB HDD - Mavericks

Late 2009 27 inch iMac, Core i5 2.6GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon 4850HD 512MB, 1TB HDD - Mavericks

Mac Mini, PowerPC G4 1.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200 32MB, 256GB HDD - Leopard

Dell Inspiron 1200 Notebook: 1.2GHz Celeron, 1.2GB RAM, Intel GMA915, 75GB HDD - Ubuntu

Generic Black Tower PC, Dual Core 64-bit 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT 512MB - Windows 7


#49 UmarOMC1

UmarOMC1

    Legendary

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1425 posts
  • Location:NYC

Posted 04 June 2011 - 06:05 PM

Okay, you're right... why settle for 2011 graphics when we should be getting 2015 graphics... you think your video card could handle it all? I hope mine can. L.A. Noire and RAGE should have volumetric clouds, too... and volumetric fire!
macOS 10.13.x/Windows 7 Pro/2009 MacPro 4,1 Xeon W3580 3.33GHz/16GB RAM/EVGA GTX1070 8GB

#50 Tesseract

Tesseract

    Unmanageable Megaweight

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3512 posts
  • Pro Member:Yes

Posted 04 June 2011 - 10:37 PM

The punchline is of course that most people are better at telling whether someone is lying when they can't see their face.

#51 ikir

ikir

    Legendary

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 875 posts
  • Steam Name:ikir
  • Location:In front of my Mac

Posted 05 June 2011 - 01:49 AM

Looks really great!
ikir's personal page
MacBook Pro 13" 2016 i5 2,9Ghz - 8GB RAM - 512GB SSD
Thunderbolt 3 eGPU Radeon Nitro+ RX 480 4GB
LG 34UM95 Ultrawide Thunderbolt
Steelseries Rival 300, Steelseries Siberia v3Prism, Logitech K811

#52 the Battle Cat

the Battle Cat

    Carnage Served Raw

  • Admin
  • 17376 posts
  • Location:Citadel City, Lh'owon
  • Pro Member:Yes

Posted 05 June 2011 - 09:24 AM

View PostTesseract, on 04 June 2011 - 10:37 PM, said:

The punchline is of course that most people are better at telling whether someone is lying when they can't see their face.

Gary Simmons
the Battle Cat

#53 Smoke_Tetsu

Smoke_Tetsu

    Uberspewer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3318 posts
  • Steam Name:Tetsu Jutsu
  • Steam ID:smoke_tetsu
  • Location:Cyberspace

Posted 05 June 2011 - 10:13 AM

View PostUmarOMC1, on 04 June 2011 - 06:05 PM, said:

Okay, you're right... why settle for 2011 graphics when we should be getting 2015 graphics... you think your video card could handle it all? I hope mine can. L.A. Noire and RAGE should have volumetric clouds, too... and volumetric fire!
If it looks better than what we have and has good performance at the same time.... hey why not? Let's throw in the kitchen sink too while we're at it! BTW, our current hardware doesn't and shouldn't hold back progress if not we wouldn't have any.

BTW I don't think we will have to worry about LA Noire as it's not coming out for PC much less Mac but Assassin's Creed Revelations on the other hand.... it's going to have it (the facial animation stuff that is not your hypothetical volumetric fire).
--Tetsuo

Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:

It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.

the Battle Cat said:

Slower and faster? I'm sorry to hear such good news?

Late 2012 27 inch iMac, Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB, 3TB HDD - Mavericks

Late 2009 27 inch iMac, Core i5 2.6GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon 4850HD 512MB, 1TB HDD - Mavericks

Mac Mini, PowerPC G4 1.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200 32MB, 256GB HDD - Leopard

Dell Inspiron 1200 Notebook: 1.2GHz Celeron, 1.2GB RAM, Intel GMA915, 75GB HDD - Ubuntu

Generic Black Tower PC, Dual Core 64-bit 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT 512MB - Windows 7


#54 Smoke_Tetsu

Smoke_Tetsu

    Uberspewer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3318 posts
  • Steam Name:Tetsu Jutsu
  • Steam ID:smoke_tetsu
  • Location:Cyberspace

Posted 07 June 2011 - 09:25 PM

I was wondering about how one will choose weapons in the personal computer versions of Rage and it looks like I got the answer today.

http://www.pcgamer.c...lot-of-buttons/

Each number key is going to be a weapon and it looks like ammo type is going to be chosen half-life style by hitting the number again... no two or even four weapon limit there. So score one for the computer.
--Tetsuo

Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:

It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.

the Battle Cat said:

Slower and faster? I'm sorry to hear such good news?

Late 2012 27 inch iMac, Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB, 3TB HDD - Mavericks

Late 2009 27 inch iMac, Core i5 2.6GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon 4850HD 512MB, 1TB HDD - Mavericks

Mac Mini, PowerPC G4 1.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200 32MB, 256GB HDD - Leopard

Dell Inspiron 1200 Notebook: 1.2GHz Celeron, 1.2GB RAM, Intel GMA915, 75GB HDD - Ubuntu

Generic Black Tower PC, Dual Core 64-bit 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT 512MB - Windows 7


#55 jeannot

jeannot

    Notorious

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 221 posts

Posted 19 June 2011 - 08:35 AM

All this is very good, but is there any indication that this game is coming to the Mac?
I don't see "Mac" indicated anywhere on "official" pages. It's just mentioned on Wikipedia, with no release date. I know we got Carmack on stage at a WWDC, but that doesn't mean much.
I believe someone else (Aspyr?) will do the port and that a Mac version will ship in 2012 or 2013.

#56 Smoke_Tetsu

Smoke_Tetsu

    Uberspewer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3318 posts
  • Steam Name:Tetsu Jutsu
  • Steam ID:smoke_tetsu
  • Location:Cyberspace

Posted 19 June 2011 - 05:22 PM

jeannot check out this post by me: http://www.insidemac...ndpost&p=401924
--Tetsuo

Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:

It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.

the Battle Cat said:

Slower and faster? I'm sorry to hear such good news?

Late 2012 27 inch iMac, Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB, 3TB HDD - Mavericks

Late 2009 27 inch iMac, Core i5 2.6GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon 4850HD 512MB, 1TB HDD - Mavericks

Mac Mini, PowerPC G4 1.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200 32MB, 256GB HDD - Leopard

Dell Inspiron 1200 Notebook: 1.2GHz Celeron, 1.2GB RAM, Intel GMA915, 75GB HDD - Ubuntu

Generic Black Tower PC, Dual Core 64-bit 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT 512MB - Windows 7


#57 the Battle Cat

the Battle Cat

    Carnage Served Raw

  • Admin
  • 17376 posts
  • Location:Citadel City, Lh'owon
  • Pro Member:Yes

Posted 20 June 2011 - 10:22 AM

View PostSmoke_Tetsu, on 19 June 2011 - 05:22 PM, said:

jeannot check out this post by me: http://www.insidemac...ndpost&p=401924
Technically this amounts to spam and is going to have to go on your permanent record.  JK.
Gary Simmons
the Battle Cat

#58 jeannot

jeannot

    Notorious

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 221 posts

Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:22 AM

:huh:  That was a helpful reply.

#59 Smoke_Tetsu

Smoke_Tetsu

    Uberspewer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3318 posts
  • Steam Name:Tetsu Jutsu
  • Steam ID:smoke_tetsu
  • Location:Cyberspace

Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:27 AM

@jeannot: How is a link to a post where I provided some news regarding Rage in a Rage thread not helpful? It reveals that id is working on it themselves and that they where having troubles with snow leopard but are looking into lion.
--Tetsuo

Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:

It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.

the Battle Cat said:

Slower and faster? I'm sorry to hear such good news?

Late 2012 27 inch iMac, Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB, 3TB HDD - Mavericks

Late 2009 27 inch iMac, Core i5 2.6GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon 4850HD 512MB, 1TB HDD - Mavericks

Mac Mini, PowerPC G4 1.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200 32MB, 256GB HDD - Leopard

Dell Inspiron 1200 Notebook: 1.2GHz Celeron, 1.2GB RAM, Intel GMA915, 75GB HDD - Ubuntu

Generic Black Tower PC, Dual Core 64-bit 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT 512MB - Windows 7


#60 jeannot

jeannot

    Notorious

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 221 posts

Posted 27 June 2011 - 12:42 PM

I just said it was helpful. No irony here. My  :huh: was aimed at the moderation.