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#201 clocknova

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 03:02 PM

So many tiny chunks of DLC.  I much preferred the good old days of expansions.  When Im absolutely certain that all DLC is finished, Ill purchase the whole package and play it as one, complete game.  Unfortunately, it sounds like the sequel is going to be more of an action-RPG, so I may have to give it a miss.  But this one is high on my list of must-haves.

And for the record, Baldurs Gate two has still given me more replay value per dollar spent than any other game.  I doubt DA will break that record, but I look forward to trying, especially with user mods.  At the moment, Morrowind is a close second for that reason.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 03:26 PM

Finished Witch Hunt today after pretty short 3 hours. I'm a bit disappointed about the Cliffhanger ending
and I really hope BioWare brings the story between the Grey Warden and Morrigan to a more satisfying end
in a future sequel.

I romanced Morrigan in Origins and performed the dark ritual with her, so it was a nice chat at the end
of the DLC and I tried two different choices. The companions were also nice, but I expected more.
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Posted 22 September 2010 - 02:20 PM

Okay, after waiting for Witch Hunt to be fixed (it finally was on monday) and some time to play it, it just finished that final DLC in roughly 2 hours.

That.
Was.
Lame!

Bioware should be ashamed to finish the story of one of the most interesting characters with this crap. The quests were uninspired, your companions shallow (well, at the banter was mildly amusing), all locations but two were recycled (shouldn't you recognize the last two in the DLC: they are from Awakenings) and the battles were slapped together and too easy - only the final boss fight was slightly more interesting, but also posed no real challenge (even on hard). And what the hell is this bloody cliffhanger about? It can hardly be leading to Dragon Age 2, since that's supposed to take place mostly parallel to the events in Dragon Age Origins. Already setting up the scene for Dragon Age 3??

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:24 AM

So now that I have my new iMac I am quite tempted to get Dragon Age. From what I playtested on PS3 I liked what I've seen... but it was readily apparent the game wasn't designed with consoles in mind.

So, is the digital deluxe edition worth the ten bucks more? Those 'special' items and small add-on don't seem all that enticing. As far as other add-ons and the expansion go, it really doesn't sound like any of them are really worth the money from what I've read here and elsewhere. Any thoughts?
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 01:46 AM

View PostPegasus, on 29 September 2010 - 01:24 AM, said:

So now that I have my new iMac I am quite tempted to get Dragon Age. From what I playtested on PS3 I liked what I've seen... but it was readily apparent the game wasn't designed with consoles in mind.

So, is the digital deluxe edition worth the ten bucks more? Those 'special' items and small add-on don't seem all that enticing. As far as other add-ons and the expansion go, it really doesn't sound like any of them are really worth the money from what I've read here and elsewhere. Any thoughts?
I bought the Digital Deluxe Edition back then, and in my opinion, it wasn't worth the extra money. The extra items are okay, but by the time you can really use them, you'll have found other items of similar power.

The Warden's Keep was pretty worthless: the extra quest is not very interesting and very short (I beat it in roughly 45 minutes in my first playthrough), does not yield particularly good items and the new skills aren't very spectacular or useful. The only good things about WK are the item storage in case your inventory gets too full (although I rarely used it because it's very cumbersome to reach) and should you find the meteor ore (which unfortunately is a random event) you can get one very powerful sword.

The other extras of the DDE (soundtrack as mp3s and wallpapers) aren't too awesome either.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 04:25 AM

View PostJanichsan, on 29 September 2010 - 01:46 AM, said:

The Warden's Keep was pretty worthless ... does not yield particularly good items and the new skills aren't very spectacular or useful.
Err, WHAT?  The Warden Commander's Armor is some of the very best in the game (hands-down best for a melee Rogue if you get it early and thus low-tier).  Blood Thirst and Tainted Blade are two of the most powerful DPS talents available.  In terms of power gained from the DLC, Warden's Keep is probably the single strongest.
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 05:02 AM

View PostBeamup, on 29 September 2010 - 04:25 AM, said:

Err, WHAT?  The Warden Commander's Armor is some of the very best in the game (hands-down best for a melee Rogue if you get it early and thus low-tier).
Possibly that depends on when you get the Warden's Commander armor. By the time I got it, I already had the Superior Dragonscale Plate Armor and the Juggernaut Armor, which are also very powerful, so that the Warden's Commander Armor was good, but not extraordinary.

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Blood Thirst and Tainted Blade are two of the most powerful DPS talents available.
Your mileage may vary and depend on your tactics. I found the Blood Power talents of relatively little use since they didn't fit the fighting style of my main characters.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 09:35 AM

View PostPegasus, on 29 September 2010 - 01:24 AM, said:

So now that I have my new iMac I am quite tempted to get Dragon Age. From what I playtested on PS3 I liked what I've seen... but it was readily apparent the game wasn't designed with consoles in mind.

So, is the digital deluxe edition worth the ten bucks more? Those 'special' items and small add-on don't seem all that enticing. As far as other add-ons and the expansion go, it really doesn't sound like any of them are really worth the money from what I've read here and elsewhere. Any thoughts?

I purchased the digital deluxe version back in March from Direct2Drive for $32 which was a great deal. I agree about the Warden's Keep DLC but if you really like the game (and you probably will) then you'll probably want to get everything that's available for it to extend its life as much as possible. I have yet to purchase any of the available DLCs as I am still working on the main game. However, as soon as I finish I will probably buy all of them despite the less than stellar reviews for most of them, including the Awakenings expansion.

Dragon Age may very well be the best game I've ever played so I'm sure I will still be playing it for quite some time to come, or at least until Dragon Age 2 comes out. I'd be pretty shocked if there wasn't a Mac version of that as well. In any case have fun because this is really a fantastic game!  :happy:

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:26 AM

Dragon Age is very good and I hope for more of the same from the sequel although murmurings are that it might be heading in a different direction :) I enjoyed the Warden's Keep and thought the armour was great to get. It's now been handed down to Alaistair as my main character has something better - but it was a big step up at the time. I did WK very early on ..

I'd recommend getting the Deluxe version - there's not much in it price wise and the few extra's are nice.

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 04:49 AM

View PostJanichsan, on 29 September 2010 - 05:02 AM, said:

Possibly that depends on when you get the Warden's Commander armor. By the time I got it, I already had the Superior Dragonscale Plate Armor and the Juggernaut Armor, which are also very powerful, so that the Warden's Commander Armor was good, but not extraordinary.
The 15% crit/backstab damage is far stronger than the COMBINED bonuses of either of those sets, on most damage-focused characters.  The other bonuses are just gravy (indeed, it's often best to just use the chest armor instead of going after the set bonus).  Getting it early just makes it utterly dominating (for a melee Rogue; a Warrior naturally wants the high-tier versions) instead of simply very good.

And Juggernaut is the weakest massive armor set, by a large margin.  Elemental resistance just doesn't mean much, given the existence of Mana Clash.

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Your mileage may vary and depend on your tactics. I found the Blood Power talents of relatively little use since they didn't fit the fighting style of my main characters.
Pray tell, what sort of fighting style does a massive DPS boost NOT fit?
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 11:56 AM

Well I finally finished Dragon Age after about 150 hours of play. The combination of being a detail freak (I like to look at and read everything) and just being one of the slower players with these types of games made it take that long for me. I still could create another character and experience the game in a whole different way (and I might eventually) but I think I'd like to tackle some of the additional content available first. So my question is should I do the Awakenings expansion before any of the DLCs or the other way around?

Oh and I should mention that this game was truly epic and I absolutely loved it. The ending didn't disappoint! :)

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 12:27 PM

View PostTacohead, on 07 October 2010 - 11:56 AM, said:

So my question is should I do the Awakenings expansion before any of the DLCs or the other way around?
I would do the DLC first, then Awakenings. You can earn a couple of neat items in the DLC that might be useful in the expansion.

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 12:32 PM

View PostJanichsan, on 07 October 2010 - 12:27 PM, said:

I would do the DLC first, then Awakenings. You can earn a couple of neat items in the DLC that might be useful in the expansion.

Okay thanks. I guess I'll also follow your suggestion earlier in this thread about which the DLCs to prioritize in which to skip (although I imagine I will get all of them eventually). Thanks again. :)

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 02:33 PM

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Pray tell, what sort of fighting style does a massive DPS boost NOT fit?
For one, the mage's Powers of Blood grant no DPS boost worth of mention (relatively little spirit damage and a bonus against darkspawn). A rogue with specialisation of ranged weapons doesn't profit very much Tainted Blood (in general too slow attack speed), a dual weapon rogue even is disadvantaged by Tainted Blood (probably a bug, but never fixed). Just to name a few.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 06:59 AM

View PostTacohead, on 07 October 2010 - 11:56 AM, said:

Well I finally finished Dragon Age after about 150 hours of play. The combination of being a detail freak (I like to look at and read everything) and just being one of the slower players with these types of games made it take that long for me. I still could create another character and experience the game in a whole different way (and I might eventually) but I think I'd like to tackle some of the additional content available first.
I bought the Deluxe Edition and took about the same amount of time to finish it because I am the same type of player. I had started another character but only got to my first camp before I didn't have time to play. When I find the time again, I'm going to get all of the DLC and Awakenings and start afresh. I've read what people have said about the DLC and Awakenings, but I want to try them myself and I want to support Mac gaming.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 12:47 PM

View PostBernie, on 10 October 2010 - 06:59 AM, said:

I bought the Deluxe Edition and took about the same amount of time to finish it because I am the same type of player. I had started another character but only got to my first camp before I didn't have time to play. When I find the time again, I'm going to get all of the DLC and Awakenings and start afresh. I've read what people have said about the DLC and Awakenings, but I want to try them myself and I want to support Mac gaming.

I'll most likely get all of the DLC and Awakenings eventually as well. This game is so amazing it's hard to justify not getting any additional content that extends its life, even if some of said content isn't quite as good, :)

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:22 PM

For the DLC and awakenings, do you purchase it in game or out of game? I see a tab for extra content but i cant actually click on it to access anything in game.
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 12:43 AM

View Postpantherv, on 14 October 2010 - 11:22 PM, said:

For the DLC and awakenings, do you purchase it in game or out of game? I see a tab for extra content but i cant actually click on it to access anything in game.
The in-game purchases don't work in the Mac version. You'll have to buy the DLC from Bioware. Awakenings wouldn't be available via the Extra Content tab anyway and would have to be bought from external sources like Transgaming themselves.

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 04:00 AM

View PostJanichsan, on 07 October 2010 - 02:33 PM, said:

For one, the mage's Powers of Blood grant no DPS boost worth of mention (relatively little spirit damage and a bonus against darkspawn). A rogue with specialisation of ranged weapons doesn't profit very much Tainted Blood (in general too slow attack speed), a dual weapon rogue even is disadvantaged by Tainted Blood (probably a bug, but never fixed). Just to name a few.
I did say Warrior and Rogue.  The Mage's are pretty crummy, I agree.  Archer rogue still gains a LOT relative to their overall damage.  (Indeed, it's a larger percentage boost than for a melee rogue.)  And it's just utterly wrong that it disadvantages a dual weapon rogue.  <i>Dual Weapon Expertise</i> disadvantages a dual weapon rogue.  The overwhelmingly better choice is to simply skip Expertise and Mastery - which don't give a rogue any bonuses worth speaking of anyway, since you should be using dual daggers for the speed - and use Tainted Blade.

The ONLY Warrior or Rogue build which will not find the Power of Blood talents massively useful, if played competently, is an archer Warrior.  But those are very rare, since Rogues make so much better archers to begin with.
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