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#1 Cougar

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 12:52 PM

Check it out here.

Looks like I will be crossing the PC version off my Christmas list. :D

It is a cider port, though. I have never purchased a cider game before. Should I expect a significant performance hit?

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 01:06 PM

OMG :D I was sure there would be a catch to this post ;)

Well the port of Jade Empire was great so I'd expect this to be a respectable release too. It's a shame it's digital only but ... as with Jade Empire if there's no other option I'll buy it!

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 01:11 PM

View PostSargiel, on December 14th 2009, 08:06 PM, said:

OMG :D I was sure there would be a catch to this post ;)

Well the port of Jade Empire was great so I'd expect this to be a respectable release too. It's a shame it's digital only but ... as with Jade Empire if there's no other option I'll buy it!

I normally wouldn't mind it being digital only, (in fact, I prefer it)  but it does make it difficult for family members to buy it for you...None of the download services appear to have gift certificates. Stupid.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 02:27 PM

View PostCougar, on December 14th 2009, 07:52 PM, said:

Check it out here.
What?? :blink:

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It is a cider port, though. I have never purchased a cider game before. Should I expect a significant performance hit?
Expect one. If it there isn't one, you can still be positively surprised, but be at least prepared.

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Well the port of Jade Empire was great so I'd expect this to be a respectable release too.
Jade Empire isn't a very good benchmark for Cider ports, since it uses a OpenGL based engine anyway which poses no real challenge to Cider's DirectX > OpenGL conversion. Stuff like (the latest) Prince of Persia or C&C Red Alert 3 would be better comparisons.

But check out the system requirements:

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Mac OS X 10.6.2 Leopard or higher
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
2 GB RAM
ATI X1600 or NVIDIA 7300 or higher
At least 17 GB of hard drive space for installation

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 02:59 PM

Wow this is rather unexpected! I was actually contemplating buying Windows (probably Windows 7) just to play this game at some point. I don't play games as much as I use to, which made buying a copy of Windows AND the game itself hard to stomach from a financial standpoint, but this is one I had to play, one way or another. Now I don't have to do that.  :happy:

However my 1st Generation 24" iMac (with the 7300 GT) is getting pretty long in the tooth for stuff like this so it's going to have to wait. I was actually planning on getting a new iMac (probably a Quad Core) "soon", as in I was actually going to try to hold out until the next iMac refresh. This may change that, although after the shock of this announcement wears off the sensible part of me will probably kick in and I'll stick with that plan and just get DAO for the Mac then.  I would need to upgrade to SL anyways and I doubt that's even worth it until I have a Mac (which would come with SL) that's capable of running it well enough. :)

For what it's worth Jade Empire runs flawlessly on my iMac but Sims 3, while certainly playable, doesn't run nearly as well. It will be interesting to hear what the performance is like for people.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 02:56 PM

I'll definitely get it, even though it's ciderized. The only question is: Standard or Deluxe Edition?
Oh, boy, there goes my private life, at least for the next few months. A new Bioware game.
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Posted 14 December 2009 - 03:17 PM

View PostJan, on December 14th 2009, 09:56 PM, said:

I'll definitely get it, even though it's ciderized. The only question is: Standard or Deluxe Edition?
Oh, boy, there goes my private life, at least for the next few months. A new Bioware game.
:D

According to the article, both versions will be available.
Edit: oh, you probably mean, which version to get. Probably the Deluxe, Im a sucker for game soundtracks.

I'm hoping this increases our chances of Mass Effect 2 on the mac!

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 03:17 PM

View PostCougar, on December 14th 2009, 10:17 PM, said:

I'm hoping this increases our chances of Mass Effect 2 on the mac!
I doubt that: different, un-Ciderisable engine. (No UE3 game works with Cider/Wine.)

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 04:16 PM

View PostJanichsan, on December 14th 2009, 10:17 PM, said:

I doubt that: different, un-Ciderisable engine. (No UE3 game works with Cider/Wine.)

Could be a perfect AAA title for Feral and their extraordinary Brad Oliver.
Bioshock, even though it's more like a 'UE2.5' game, may deliver a good
code base (not that I know anything about programming, but maybe
it helps).
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Posted 14 December 2009 - 05:53 PM

I meet the system reqs except 10.6.2 or higher and I certainly don't have 17gb free on my hard drive. The storage issue I suppose I could rectify. And I could buy 10.6.
Be nice to play on the Mac tho. But I am concerned about the performance hit from cider because I'm scraping the bottom of the system reqs.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 06:05 PM

Darn it, now I HAVE to update to 10.6.....

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 06:40 PM

View PostHansi, on December 15th 2009, 01:05 AM, said:

Darn it, now I HAVE to update to 10.6.....

Maybe not, after that it says "Leopard," not snow leopard. I think it's a typo.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 06:41 PM

HOLY $#@!

I just saw this in the news, then the forum. Wooo! I'm a big Bioware fan, so really looking forward to this. And next week! Now that's the kind of announcement I like. I was wondering what to get myself for Christmas, and now I think I know what :D

Hoping the performance is up to snuff. I more than meet the requirements but I know Cider has a so so track record on the performance front.

Echoing what someone said above, I wondered if this would increase the chances of ME2 getting ported, but it is a different engine. Still Gears of War and UT3 are in the works (or in limbo) so who knows. If it sells well perhaps Bioware may consider it. One way or the other I'm totally getting ME2.
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Posted 14 December 2009 - 06:41 PM

This is where I jump in and ask "Editor, too?" and then Eric5h5 laughs, posts, and calls me a silly old man. Or words to that effect.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 06:58 PM

LOL!  You silly old man.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 11:59 PM

View PostJan, on December 14th 2009, 05:16 PM, said:

Could be a perfect AAA title for Feral and their extraordinary Brad Oliver.
Bioshock, even though it's more like a 'UE2.5' game, may deliver a good
code base (not that I know anything about programming, but maybe
it helps).
http://www.insidemac...ry.php?ID=18437

Coincidentally, the IMG news article has a link to Feral under the link to Bioware.

Cider better be multithreaded well since Dragon Age Origins scales very well from dual core to quad core, something like 70% for Core 2 at 2.4GHz. The Snow Leopard requirement is disappointing but not unexpected. Even without full OpenGL 3.x support, I believe some of the extensions Apple has implemented in 10.6.x really help simplify porting from DirectX. I guess Transgaming figured the cost benefit of reduced user base versus ease of port was worthwhile and will likely be in the long run anyways, if Transgaming continues to bring the 2+ years of DLC that I believe Bioware is going to support.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 01:45 AM

Oh! Well this is a surprise!
Wait and see how huge the performance drop will be, I guess.

I've been trying to decide between PS3 and PC versions,
the PC version would run much better but the PS3 version would run for sure.

My mac meets the minimum requirements easy, so I might pick that instead if I can expect decent performance.
But if the minimum means 800x600 slideshow whent there's a lot going on, I'll have to look elsewhere.

No particular hurry finding out anyway. I'm still not through Fallout 3,
waited for game of the year edition (with all expansions included) and was going to wait the same for DA.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 02:06 AM

View PostCougar, on December 15th 2009, 01:40 AM, said:

Maybe not, after that it says "Leopard," not snow leopard. I think it's a typo.
When you mean the "Leopard" is a typo, you're probably right - Transgaming's site is full of such inconsistencies (and thus only fueling my doubts about their competence). All Cider games always had the latest MacOS X version as minimum system requirement, though there is usually a simple way to make the games run on earlier version of OS X by editing some specific .plist file.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 03:18 AM

View PostCougar, on December 15th 2009, 12:40 AM, said:

Maybe not, after that it says "Leopard," not snow leopard. I think it's a typo.

Actually I think it may be an driver issue because you can run the Windows version okay with Crossover Games under 10.6 but under 10.5 I got a heap of graphical errors.

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Posted 17 December 2009 - 04:12 AM

View Postltcommander.data, on December 14th 2009, 10:59 PM, said:

http://www.insidemac...ry.php?ID=18437

Coincidentally, the IMG news article has a link to Feral under the link to Bioware.

Don't know why we have nothing to do with it :)

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