[DaveyJJ]

OK, the tabs at top take a bit of getting used to, but this puppy runs JS and loads up forums so fast (and I'm on the G5 at work) I'm simply stunned. Wow. Nice improvement. And great CSS3 support too. Comes with an uninstaller for those who want to try.

Recommended.

PS. Dead Words submitted to Apple

[gizmo]

Installed it on my PowerBook and I'm really enjoying the speed. Now if I could get adblock to work on Tiger with Safari 4 it would be awesome.

[DaveyJJ]

Also very nice implementation of the web inspector panel at bottom of window. Even Flash sites like Nitrome seem faster.

[teflon]

Apparently it breaks 1Password, something I use a lot, and I doubt that Saft will work either.
Looks like its time for me to switch out the plug ins Im using (Glimmer Blocker as an ad blocker claims to be upgrade proof).

Edit:loving the top 20 sites thing, its dead nifty. Though Im not 10% that I like the moving of the tab bar to the top of the window

[DaveyJJ]

teflon, on February 24th 2009, 11:24 AM, said:

Apparently it breaks 1Password, something I use a lot, and I doubt that Saft will work either.
Looks like its time for me to switch out the plug ins Im using (Glimmer Blocker as an ad blocker claims to be upgrade proof).

To make 1Password work see their forums ...

http://support.agile...mp;postcount=14

To move the tabs down to where they used to be use this ... then simply restart ...

$ defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4TabBarIsOnTop -bool NO

More tips here ... http://pastie.textmate.org/398861

[Janichsan]

teflon, on February 24th 2009, 05:24 PM, said:

Apparently it breaks 1Password, something I use a lot, and I doubt that Saft will work either.
Looks like its time for me to switch out the plug ins Im using (Glimmer Blocker as an ad blocker claims to be upgrade proof).

Edit:loving the top 20 sites thing, its dead nifty. Though Im not 10% that I like the moving of the tab bar to the top of the window

Yep, the tabs at the top of the window look very strange – a bit like a Google Chrome imitation. But that Safari 4 breaks all kinds of plugins would be to be expected, I'd think. Happens every time with a major revision.

[MILBOP DIPPLEBERRY]

Does it still cause you to lose your place if you're loading a page while trying to scroll down?

[The Liberator]

Downloading now, I will report back in about a day on this.

By the way, I just thought I wonder how different Safari 4 would be for the people who are still using Tiger, is there anything that the Leopard guys can do, which the Tiger guys will not be able to do or see?

Liberator.

P.S. Dead Words sounds like a pretty cool game, good work Davey.

[Sneaky Snake]

Initial impressions are good, its running on my Homebuild. I like it better then Firefox and Chrome. My only gripe right now is that there was no option to import bookmarks from another browser.


-Snake

[Frost]

Wow... just when Firefox was catching up, Safari leaves it way the hell in the dust.

Safari 4 rocks, I'm loving it.

[Sneaky Snake]

I feel bad to steal some of Safari's thunder, but this browser obviously took quite a bit from Google Chrome (which was my default browser until today), however it is superior to chrome

[MILBOP DIPPLEBERRY]

This is awesome.

Wish it would work with my custom theme though. And my add-ons in Firefox were perfect.

I suppose I should either start using this or update to Firefox 3 though since Firefox 2 isn't supported anymore.

[teflon]

Yeah, but Chrome was a bit more of a statement of intent rather than a full browsing solution. Fast and lightweight, but this is faster yes heavier.

I fixed my 1pwd issue. Even the latest beta build wouldnt work, and my version number was 5528.1 in the .plist. I had to change it to 5528.16 for some reason...

Onto the interface changes I dislike. I reckon I could get used to the new tab placement, but I dont think I want to unless it ties in better with expose. Possibly some totally sweet animations that have each tab separate from the main window, yet have the front one stay larger and have the others crammed around it a little, like moons around a planet. So right now I see no purpose to the new layout, specially as it reduces the functionality of being able to drag the tabs around, you now have a handle which you need to grab etc etc
(incidentally, they still have "hide tab bar" in the View menu)

On the same theme, the removal of the stop/reload button is illogical to say the least. It took me a few minutes to spot that it was at the other end on the URL bar. I mean WTF?!? thats completely breaking the established layout for no reason at all. It makes sense next to the forward/back buttons, but its now in a completely different part of the bar.

equally, theres no need to tie the add bookmark button to the other end of it. Not everyone wants/needs this. I always use cmd-D for example.

and why get rid of the progress bar? that blatantly obvious load indicator has helped me spot a stuck website which could do with a refresh hundreds of times.

I love the top sites feature, but it should be customisable. You should be able to lock in a site along at least the top row of pages, and exclude others. What happens if you dont visit a site for a week, but usually do so a lot? it disappears and then you lose part of the purpose of this tool. spotted the edit button in the bottom left. now I feel much better.
oh, and it needs keyboard controls. arrows and numbers for the first 10 should do the trick.

of course, all of this would be easier if apple gave us some decent view options in the preferences.

[Janichsan]

teflon, on February 24th 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

On the same theme, the removal of the stop/reload button is illogical to say the least. It took me a few minutes to spot that it was at the other end on the URL bar. I mean WTF?!? thats completely breaking the established layout for no reason at all. It makes sense next to the forward/back buttons, but its now in a completely different part of the bar.

That has obviously been carried over from the iPhone version of Safari. There it's the same (at least since the iPhone OS version 2.1 or something) I still think it's weird, but probably they wanted to make the different Safari versions more uniform.

[gizmo]

Found this website on gizmodo.com about changing some of the hidden preferences. You can move the tabs back to their old location, add the blue progress bar back, disable coverflow, and more:

http://swedishcampgr...den-preferences

[Sneaky Snake]

MILBOP DIPPLEBERRY, on February 24th 2009, 03:20 PM, said:

Does it still cause you to lose your place if you're loading a page while trying to scroll down?

its fixed this problem i think, just from what i've noticed from browsing

[MILBOP DIPPLEBERRY]

Sneaky Snake, on February 24th 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

its fixed this problem i think, just from what i've noticed from browsing

Everything loaded so fast for me, I couldn't figure out if it had.

[Sneaky Snake]

MILBOP DIPPLEBERRY, on February 24th 2009, 07:31 PM, said:

Everything loaded so fast for me, I couldn't figure out if it had.

I'm positive now, they fixed it

[Greg Gant]

Okay, I welcome the rendering increases but pretty much the Top Sites and Cover flow is worthless and the tabbing is ugly. I send a million thanks for Gizmo for the link.

[Sneaky Snake]

I swear videos from youtube and IGN load faster, my internet is only about 100 kBs and yesterday when I was using chrome I had to give a video on IGN about a 2 minute buffer. Using Safari 4 I can watch immediately without interruption