iTunes DRM Free - the lowdown -
#1
Posted 10 January 2009 - 12:03 AM
Will it be coming with a new version of iTunes (didn't they say 'effective immediately at MacWorld?)
Is there some facet of iTunes I'm missing that does this?
Is the conversion to DRM free a certain bitrate?
Is there a place that gives this kind of information? I've been digging all over Apple and iTunes and can't really find anything that answers these questions.
#2
Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:24 AM
J, on January 10th 2009, 12:03 AM, said:
Will it be coming with a new version of iTunes (didn't they say 'effective immediately at MacWorld?)
Is there some facet of iTunes I'm missing that does this?
Is the conversion to DRM free a certain bitrate?
Is there a place that gives this kind of information? I've been digging all over Apple and iTunes and can't really find anything that answers these questions.
should have looked harder:
http://www.apple.com/itunes/whatsnew/
#3
Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:36 AM
J, on January 10th 2009, 12:03 AM, said:
It's the same iTunes Plus that's been available for a while. Now they're just putting more iTunes Plus tracks up.
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Is the conversion to DRM free a certain bitrate?
256kbps, and you pay to download them since it's entirely store-side.
#4
Posted 10 January 2009 - 09:59 AM
Nail, on January 10th 2009, 03:24 AM, said:
#5
Posted 10 January 2009 - 11:03 AM
J, on January 10th 2009, 01:03 AM, said:
Yep!
J, on January 10th 2009, 01:03 AM, said:
No, iTunes has supported iTunes Plus (The name Apple gives to DRM, higher bitrate songs sold on the store since May '08 I believe). It already supports DRM-free music.
J, on January 10th 2009, 01:03 AM, said:
When you go to buy a song, if it has that blue plus symbol next to the price, that is an iTunes plus song. That means it is 256kbps (versus 128kbps of the DRM songs) and lacks any DRM.
On the right side of the store's home page, there's a link called "Upgrade my library" it will tell you how many DRM songs you that can be upgraded to iTunes Plus. It's $0.30 a song -- not sure about other countries.
J, on January 10th 2009, 01:03 AM, said:
^ what I said above. It's now 256kbps. Still AAC.
J, on January 10th 2009, 01:03 AM, said:
Besides the apple site, I have no idea.
By the way, the apostrophe in your name makes the BB think the string ends at "J"... haha
#7
Posted 10 January 2009 - 12:52 PM
J, on January 10th 2009, 09:58 AM, said:
Not everything has been converted yet. My list of songs that can be upgraded has grown everyday since the announcement. So, check back often. You also need to make sure you're logged in to your iTunes account or it won't show you anything.
Bif
#8
Posted 10 January 2009 - 03:44 PM
BifBologna, on January 10th 2009, 02:52 PM, said:
#9
Posted 10 January 2009 - 05:18 PM
J, on January 10th 2009, 03:44 PM, said:
There are ways to do that without paying Apple.
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iTunes can do AAC to MP3 pretty easily, though, can't it? Certainly lots of better encoders can do it easily, though you might want to up the bitrate.
#10
Posted 10 January 2009 - 07:51 PM
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#11
Posted 11 January 2009 - 09:54 AM
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#12
Posted 11 January 2009 - 06:36 PM
the Battle Cat, on January 11th 2009, 10:54 AM, said:
I hear ya. The same thing happens after an all night rave. Couldn't hear my ring tone for a several days.
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#13
Posted 12 January 2009 - 12:05 AM
I'll still continue buying CDs. I like the packaging and the booklets, and most CDs can be found (new or lightly used) for around the same price as the albums on iTunes through Amazon Marketplace.
#14
Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:44 AM
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#15
Posted 12 January 2009 - 04:05 AM
By the way, when I upgrade my purchased library to iTunes Plus, does that mean that some songs that have mysteriously disappeared from my library (that I bought), would be downloaded again? yes or no?
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#16
Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:02 AM
itunes is checking its own database of what you bought and not what is still on your computer.
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#17
Posted 12 January 2009 - 07:41 AM
Dark_Archon, on January 12th 2009, 06:05 AM, said:
The Liberator, on January 12th 2009, 10:05 AM, said:
Agreed! I've hundreds of CDs, buying more all the time, but nothing from iTunes. I listen to all my music on quality hi-fi separates, so anything less isn't really an option for now. I'd only go for iTunes if I emigrated (a possibility) & needed to drastically declutter all my possessions.
#18
Posted 12 January 2009 - 08:28 AM
Dark_Archon, on January 12th 2009, 01:05 AM, said:
I'll still continue buying CDs. I like the packaging and the booklets, and most CDs can be found (new or lightly used) for around the same price as the albums on iTunes through Amazon Marketplace.
I'll usually buy the CD if it's only available DRM'd, but I am the opposite. I don't like having anything physical 'cause I have no room to store all this stuff. I have a hard enough time storing console & computer software.
I can't tell a difference between 256kbps and a CD. What exactly do you hear/not hear that makes the difference?
#19
Posted 12 January 2009 - 09:12 AM
Kaoro, on January 12th 2009, 02:28 PM, said:
Until Dark_Archon gets back to you on this, I'll just chip in my 2 cents worth. IMHO, there's probably no significant difference for many people unless you're used to listening to CDs through quality hifi. Probably some individual subjectivity accounts for any discernible degree of difference, or none. That's between early CDs & MP3s.
However, there's now a massive difference in quality between early CDs & recent CD remasters, DSD (hybrids) or SACD. Really! I have 1960's Stones CDs in both early CD & DSD versions. Highest & lowest frequency sounds are noticeably clearer on DSD. For eg., Brian Jones's sitar on some tracks is positively scintillating on DSD (as it is on original vinyl), but sounds relatively muffled on the standard CD.
#20
Posted 12 January 2009 - 01:53 PM
We did a blind test using my roommate's SACD player. I didn't expect to be able to hear a difference between CDs and SACDs, but it was definitely there.
I actually keep two copies of everything. There is no point loading up an iPod/iPhone(or any portable MP3 player) with lossless files because the output is pretty noisy and they can't provide proper amplification.

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