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#1 User is offline   mknabster Icon

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 03:01 PM

I'm planning on wiping my system, and reinstalling Leopard due to various reasons. I would like to keep my computer as up-to-date as possible, but is there any update that doesn't really help the performance of OSX? I did notice that when i installed 10.5.5, it was considerably slow, and when i installed 4 GBS of RAM, there wasn't much of a difference in how OSX acted. And also, is there a way to reinstall it without wiping the Bootcamp partition?
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 04:01 PM

View Postmknabster, on November 26th 2008, 03:01 PM, said:

I'm planning on wiping my system, and reinstalling Leopard due to various reasons. I would like to keep my computer as up-to-date as possible, but is there any update that doesn't really help the performance of OSX?

How are you going to skip an update but still install later ones? It won't work. Just install them all.

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And also, is there a way to reinstall it without wiping the Bootcamp partition?

If you only install it onto the OSX partition it won't wipe out the bootcamp one.
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 04:14 PM

View Postbobbob, on November 26th 2008, 05:01 PM, said:

How are you going to skip an update but still install later ones? It won't work.


Sure it will...since when do you need to install consecutive updates in order? Just download the latest version of pretty much anything and it will work, regardless of whether you've installed the intervening updates.

Anyway, there shouldn't be any slowness issues with 10.5.5, so don't skip it. Presumably wiping your system will fix that, even if it is a rather Windows-y solution ("Doesn't work? Re-install!").

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 05:45 PM

well, with regards to system updates, the combo update does all of them at the same time. If you consider that to be skipping the previous 4, then fine, but I consider it to be doing all of them. In order to get to 10.5.6 you need to either be at 10.5.5, or take the combo update and pass through 10.5.5 anyway.

I echo that you shouldnt really skip anything. Just getting the latest update in one go should help things a tiny bit. With regards to the 4GB of RAM, it wont have any effect unless youre actually using it. More RAM will only speed things up if youre regularly running out of it and your computer is having to make a lot more calls to the HDD and the virtual RAM on it.
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 05:42 PM

View PostEric5h5, on November 26th 2008, 04:14 PM, said:

just download the latest version of pretty much anything and it will work, regardless of whether you've installed the intervening updates.

That's updating something he doesn't want updated, if you read what was written. Again, how do you skip updating something but still install later updates for other stuff? Piecemeal? Without any knowledge of dependencies or incompatibilities? It's not going to be worth it, and the old versions were updated for a reason to boot. The only time it might make sense is if the new version is outright broken (not merely 'slow').

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Presumably wiping your system will fix that

It's psychosomatic, so yes. Also rebuilding the desktop, repairing permissions, clearing the NVRAM, updating the prebinding, shutting down all apps while updating, etc.
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 06:21 PM

View Postbobbob, on November 26th 2008, 06:42 PM, said:

That's updating something he doesn't want updated, if you read what was written. Again, how do you skip updating something but still install later updates for other stuff?


You obviously didn't understand what I wrote; try again. If you download, say, 10.5.4 and then later update to 10.5.6, you have skipped an update. You can do that and it will work fine. I wouldn't suggest skipping 10.5.5, since on at least some systems it has some reasonably important fixes.

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It's psychosomatic, so yes. Also rebuilding the desktop, repairing permissions, clearing the NVRAM, updating the prebinding, shutting down all apps while updating, etc.


If something is "considerably" slow, then I doubt it's psychosomatic. I'd rather fix the problem then reinstall, but if you were planning to do that anyway, presumably the reinstall would also fix whatever's causing the problem. Don't be such an ass all the time, eh? You're not helping anyone.

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 06:47 PM

well yeah, hes 'skipping' 10.5.5 in that scenario, but in terms of file changes, he isnt at all. 10.5.6 will just be a slight adjustment to 10.5.5, and unless a loss of performance has been highlighted and improved upon for that release, it wont be any faster.

without knowing more details about the system, or even having a bit of hands on time, I dont really know what to suggest apart from things which have already been mentioned.

Perhaps you could try to run the combo update to 10.5.5 again? this often works better and irons out some of the issues that a delta update may have/create.
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 08:13 PM

Geez, going at each others throats because you interpreted the original posters topic differently. I think Teflon pretty much cleared up what mknabster was originally trying to say. But you know, that's just my own 2 cents...
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:50 AM

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