[ltcommander.data]

Maybe this has been discussed before, but I didn't see any references on a quick glance through recent topics and this is separate from the Feral Legends recommendations.

Has anyone guessed at the games Robosoft Technologies has listed they are working on? Robosoft is a porting company that seems to work with Feral on many of their games and they have released teasers to projects they are working on:

http://www.robosoftin.com/games/

Quoted here for convenience, no infringement intended.

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1. Adventurers get ready for an Epic Battle!!!
2. Buy, grow, sell and watch your profits grow!!!
3. Do you want to play God?
4. Do you have what it takes to win at the brickyard?
5. Not everything in this world is black and white!

3 and/or 5 seem to be Black & White 2. I'm not sure the rest. 2 or 4 could be a reference to Sid Meier's Railroads! or 2 to Sid Meier's SimGolf assuming they are on a Sid Meier streak. 1 might imply Epic games seeing that "E" is capitalized. Maybe Unreal II rather than Gears of War since I would imagine MacSoft is doing the later. Although "adventurers" could point to something completely different so 1 may be a reference to Fable, which has been released or Lego Indiana Jones.

It'd be interesting to see what other people think.

[teflon]

It was discussed at one point, I think when Colin McRae came out a while ago, but has been lost to the vestiges of time. I think its quite deserving of its own thread, and could be updated as and when Feral make new announcements.

One or two things with your guesses, though. You seem to be looking for too literal a meaning in them, and only one clue per game. They dont want you to guess them easily, otherwise they Feral would just announce the games, which theyve stayed away from doing since the intel switch over, as people complained a lot at the huge delays.

For example, B&W2 was announced long long long ago, and is quite clearly #3, so it cant be #5. Not to mention that just saying black and white (note: not capitalised) would make it much too obvious.
The same thing applies to #1. Youve taken "Epic" out of its context, as its actually part of "Epic Battle", which in tandem with that Epic have always worked with MacSoft, and that Unreal 2 wasnt exactly the kind of classic game that Feral are looking for RE the Legends series (it reviewed fairly poorly and didnt sell too well).

Im not really going to try guessing, Im more of a nitpicker, and these kind of things mess with my head. Not to mention that I dont think any of the old clues were guessed correctly. Feral often courts the not too obvious game Id never have pegged them to bring out BSM, whilst also managing to grab some of the biggies, like the LEGO series (with the exception of LSW1).
Keep guessing though, and you might hit gold.

[Sneaky Snake]

"Adventurers" in number one makes me think its not a shooter, although it could be. My guess is a single player RPG of some sort

[Rev-O]

Sneaky Snake, on November 23rd 2008, 03:55 PM, said:

"Adventurers" in number one makes me think its not a shooter, although it could be. My guess is a single player RPG of some sort

Yah, so the whole 'brickyard' thing in #4 screams INDY, but that's not what I wanted to post about. "adventurers" cannot be about a SP RPG. It is not allowed. No AAA SP RPGs will ever become available for the Mac. If a AAA SP RPG would become available for the Mac, I would no longer be able to be a sullen and bitter Mac gamer.
KotOR2 Doesn't count! KotOR was a 1/2 455ed rpg with great graphics. KotOR2 is even worse: 1/2 455ed RPG with a rushed and incomplete storyline but nice graphics. Great graphics do not make a great rpg! They just make a tepid rpg pretty! Case in point: KotOR, JE:SE, F:TLC. Really fun games all three, but seriously craptastic RPGs!

[Eric5h5]

Rev-O, on November 23rd 2008, 07:25 PM, said:

If a AAA SP RPG would become available for the Mac, I would no longer be able to be a sullen and bitter Mac gamer.

I don't think it's possible for that to happen, as there are no good AAA SP RPGs as far as I know, for any platform. There are a few decent action-RPGs, but that's not the same thing. The only good real RPGs are indie.

--Eric

[Sneaky Snake]

could be an older one, and by RPG I mean all the different types

[charmin]

teflon, on November 23rd 2008, 10:49 PM, said:

B&W2 was announced long long long ago, and is quite clearly #3, so it cant be #5. Not to mention that just saying black and white (note: not capitalised) would make it much too obvious.

If it was announced 'long long ago', why try and keep it a secret?

[Janichsan]

charmin, on November 24th 2008, 08:28 AM, said:

If it was announced 'long long ago', why try and keep it a secret?

It somehow dropped out of the "officially announced" status, probably due to the long delay. Fable also was "secretly" hinted at at RoboSoft's page, although it was already known to be ported.

My two cents for the hints:
1. Some RPG. I have no idea which one, but definitely some RPG. (BTW, Rev-O: considering your opinion regarding KotOR, Fable, Jade Empire and the like, there is no such thing as a AAA SP RPG – on any platform.)
2. Some economy simulation. Sid Meier's Railroads would make sense since it uses basically the same engine as Pirates!, but the hint is very vague. I wonder if the "grow" part refers to your business or the things you sell. Hemp Tycoon, maybe?
3. Black & White 2
4. I also assume a Indycar racing game. Feral seems to want to take the part as main provider for racing games on the Mac, so that could fit. However, I cannot think of a more or less successful Indycar racing game in the last couple of years and taking up a US racing license would be slightly weird for a Europe based developer. Hm....
5. Difficult. Either this could be meant literally and they mean some game where have to colour things, or it is meant morally – and this could apply to quite a few games. I still assume that the "Hitman" series would be possible for a Legends release and wonder if this applies to those games.

[Jan]

Janichsan, on November 24th 2008, 11:19 AM, said:

It somehow dropped out of the "officially announced" status, probably due to the long delay. Fable also was "secretly" hinted at at RoboSoft's page, although it was already known to be ported.

My two cents for the hints:
1. Some RPG. I have no idea which one, but definitely some RPG. (BTW, Rev-O: considering your opinion regarding KotOR, Fable, Jade Empire and the like, there is no such thing as a AAA SP RPG – on any platform.)
2. Some economy simulation. Sid Meier's Railroads would make sense since it uses basically the same engine as Pirates!, but the hint is very vague. I wonder if the "grow" part refers to your business or the things you sell. Hemp Tycoon, maybe?
3. Black & White 2
4. I also assume a Indycar racing game. Feral seems to want to take the part as main provider for racing games on the Mac, so that could fit. However, I cannot think of a more or less successful Indycar racing game in the last couple of years and taking up a US racing license would be slightly weird for a Europe based developer. Hm....
5. Difficult. Either this could be meant literally and they mean some game where have to colour things, or it is meant morally – and this could apply to quite a few games. I still assume that the "Hitman" series would be possible for a Legends release and wonder if this applies to those games.

If "black and white" is a reference to "Film Noir" themed games it could also be "Max Payne 2".

[charmin]

Janichsan, on November 24th 2008, 10:19 AM, said:

there is no such thing as a AAA SP RPG – on any platform.

Fallout 3? Any Final Fantasy game? Anything Square Enix even LOOKED at?

[Janichsan]

charmin, on November 24th 2008, 07:43 PM, said:

Fallout 3? Any Final Fantasy game? Anything Square Enix even LOOKED at?

I didn't try to express my opinion but simply extended Rev-O's argumentation to other recent RPGs.

But regarding Fallout 3: from what I've seen from that by now, it's a wanna-be RPG first person shooter.

[Dark_Archon]

Janichsan, on November 24th 2008, 01:59 PM, said:

I didn't try to express my opinion but simply extended Rev-O's argumentation to other recent RPGs.

But regarding Fallout 3: from what I've seen from that by now, it's a wanna-be RPG first person shooter.

It isn't really a first person shooter either. The movement and shooting doesn't have the fluidity and somewhat natural feel of a real shooter. But trying to call it an RPG is a joke. The Final Fantasy games aren't great either. Rev-O's assessment is completely accurate. I'm not sure how it can be argued otherwise.

[Ichigo27]

Dark_Archon, on November 24th 2008, 04:29 PM, said:

The Final Fantasy games aren't great either.

Depends what final fantasy installment your talking about or if your completely against JRPGs.

charmin, on November 24th 2008, 01:43 PM, said:

Fallout 3? Any Final Fantasy game? Anything Square Enix even LOOKED at?

Fallout 3 wouldn't be such a bad game to invest. As for the final fantasies, FFVII on windows was handled by Eidos I think. FFXI wouldn't really be such a great investment since the overall population keeps shrinking, VII is a no no IMHO. So that would lead to one possibility FFXIII, if IIRC was windows bound or was that the Crystal Tools?

Unless..... The Last Remnant is their next game, since that game is coming out on windows in a few months and uses UE3.

[Dark_Archon]

Ichigo27, on November 24th 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

Depends what final fantasy installment your talking about or if your completely against JRPGs.

6 was pretty good. 7 was all right. They did seem to be lacking in the RP department though.

I've tried 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 9. 6 & 7 were the only ones that held my attention at all. FF Tactics Advance was fun, but it doesn't really claim to be an RPG.

[Mr. Selvetarm]

Rev-O, on November 23rd 2008, 07:25 PM, said:

Yah, so the whole 'brickyard' thing in #4 screams INDY, but that's not what I wanted to post about. "adventurers" cannot be about a SP RPG. It is not allowed. No AAA SP RPGs will ever become available for the Mac. If a AAA SP RPG would become available for the Mac, I would no longer be able to be a sullen and bitter Mac gamer.
KotOR2 Doesn't count! KotOR was a 1/2 455ed rpg with great graphics. KotOR2 is even worse: 1/2 455ed RPG with a rushed and incomplete storyline but nice graphics. Great graphics do not make a great rpg! They just make a tepid rpg pretty! Case in point: KotOR, JE:SE, F:TLC. Really fun games all three, but seriously craptastic RPGs!

Have you played KotOR 2? Graphics were't amazing but the story made me want to turn it into a novel by he end. Great story and you're a fool if you think otherwise. No insult intended, but it was amazing.

[Ichigo27]

Dark_Archon, on November 24th 2008, 06:34 PM, said:

6 was pretty good. 7 was all right. They did seem to be lacking in the RP department though.

Sqauresoft went with making those installments less of an ''choose your own adventure'' type of game and more on one path focusing on storytelling either if the storyline in one game was good or the other was crap.

I thought some of the earlier final fantasy installments were lacking in telling a great story (12 went with that same direction but I'll get back to that), I recall 1, 2, and 5 having an half ass story and atmosphere not sure about the real third FF since I don't have a DS or a famicom.

6 went somewhere, I think 8 was fair but wasn't as good as 6,7,9, and 10 story wise.

12 wasn't so epic in storytelling but it had great atmosphere, a great soundtrack and overall addictive gameplay(I just love how square decided differ from the previous turned based FFs). Overall it was an awsome game.

[Rev-O]

Mr. Selvetarm, on November 24th 2008, 04:56 PM, said:

Have you played KotOR 2? Graphics were't amazing but the story made me want to turn it into a novel by he end. Great story and you're a fool if you think otherwise. No insult intended, but it was amazing.

By incomplete I meant the chunks of plot line that got dropped in order to meet the release date. The story was good (just as the story in KoTOR and JE:SE were very good) but a great story does not make a great RPG. A great story is just one element of a great RPG, but it no more makes it wonderful than shiny graphics do. If the engine, plotting, character system, combat system, and size of world are lacking, a great story isn't going to save it. Not that I'm saying KoTOR2 was lacking in engine and character design and what not, just making a general observation. Great stories are nice, but they don't make the game. Case in point is JE:SE which had a fantastic story, but was deficient in many other ways. A great RPG needs a good story, but the current trend of RPGs (at least KoTOR, KoTOR2, JE:SE, Fable) to have essentially a rail-based plot does not make them great RPGs. Good games. Enjoyable games. Full of high production values and all that. Loved playing them. Hardly what I'd call a great single player RPG, though.

[Sneaky Snake]

Rev-O, on November 24th 2008, 11:06 PM, said:

Hardly what I'd call a great single player RPG, though.

What is a game you consider a great single player RPG?


-Snake

[Janichsan]

Dark_Archon, on November 25th 2008, 12:34 AM, said:

I've tried 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 9.

Is that the old US numbering (in which the japanese FF 4 is US FF 2) or the corrected one?

(BTW: Derailment of another thread – successful! )

[alkar]

maybe #1 is tomb raider underworld ? Knowing they already released TRA, you never know...