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#41 Eric5h5

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:01 PM

View PostQuantaCat, on November 20th 2007, 04:15 PM, said:

...delta update silliness?

Yes.  As opposed to sensibly using combo updates.

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:29 PM

View PostQuantaCat, on November 20th 2007, 04:15 PM, said:

...delta update silliness?

The combo updates contain all the updates before them, so someone who's still on 10.4.0 can go right to 10.4.11. A lot of people install them even when they've been keeping up with all the updates, because they tend to cause less problems than the delta updates.
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 06:37 PM

Sounds really sad, somehow. And thank you.
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Posted 21 November 2007 - 02:45 PM

I still don't get your obsession with delta updates. I've ran delta updates from 10.2.2 to 10.2.8, from 10.3.1 to 10.3.9, and from 10.4 to 10.4.11, with no problems.
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Posted 21 November 2007 - 03:41 PM

Lucky you. If you ever do have problems after an OS update, the combo update will still be the first thing to try, as tBC demonstrated earlier in the thread. :)

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 03:52 PM

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 04:06 PM

Most people won't have problems with delta updates.  Or else Apple would probably not have them.  However it can occasionally happen that some file or other won't update that should have updated...tBC's demonstration isn't the first time I've seen that.  (But don't buy Moxie.)

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 01:51 AM

Combo update didn't work for me. Safari still crashes on quit. Where can I buy some Moxie?

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 01:15 PM

View PostLord Brixton, on November 22nd 2007, 02:51 AM, said:

Combo update didn't work for me. Safari still crashes on quit. Where can I buy some Moxie?

Sorry about the combo update. I use Camino- never crashes. I believe you can get your Moxie in Connecticut and New Hampshire. Throw me over a can of moxie over the pond if you get some before I do. ::See me?:: I'm the one waving with the gray shirt on.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 07:00 AM

After the Safari shenanigans I had after 'upgrading' my Macpro to 10.4.11 I held off on applying the update to my Powerbook.

Tried it just now.

Totally different hardware & app loadout, Identical result - Safari is now dead.

Is 10.4.11 just a Windows-style 'deadware' shill for Leopard?

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 07:07 AM

its cos its safari 3 instead of just an update for safari 2. the new webkit breaks things to do with it.

try all the same things, delete safari prefs, empty the input managers folder, fix permissions etc. etc.
and while youre doing all of this hang around on the apple discussion forums..
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 07:09 AM

View Postteflon, on December 31st 2007, 01:07 PM, said:

its cos its safari 3 instead of just an update for safari 2. the new webkit breaks things to do with it.

try all the same things, delete safari prefs, empty the input managers folder, fix permissions etc. etc.
and while youre doing all of this hang around on the apple discussion forums..

My! that was quick!

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 07:59 AM

not bad, just being home with family really. yourself??

if youre gonna migrate everything across from 10.4.11, then you might find that safari has exactly the same issue when you come out the other side.. if youre unlucky that is.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 09:15 AM

View PostLord Brixton, on December 31st 2007, 08:00 AM, said:

Is 10.4.11 just a Windows-style 'deadware' shill for Leopard?

Nope, works perfectly here.  Best 10.4.x ever.

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 09:23 AM

I installed 10.5 'over' 10.4.11 and the Safari problem went away, so I'm hoping for the same good fortune this time.

It's strange though, the 2 machines have almost nothing in common....

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 09:24 AM

My Safari startup crash has returned though to a lesser degree, but it started before 10.4.11.  Other than that 10.4.11 is great.  I may not migrate to 10.5 on the G5 until it's no longer my gaming computer.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 10:30 AM

thats really odd LB, glad its sorted though.

tBC, you could always get a second HDD in that G5 of yours and stick Leopard on that as an experiment. I had a 128Gb HDD lying around which ive stuck in my parents old sawtooth with the 800Mhz upgrade and a 9800 in it and I installed leopard on it, which works just fine... even all the spangly effects of Time Machine and the dock etc. etc. look great and work seamlessly (so long as its not backing up at that point that is)
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