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#1 Ranger_Joe

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 10:40 PM

During the summer Apple said that 10.5 would be launched in October.  If so, where is the hype?  Why isn't Apple taking pre orders for the new OS?  Will it be pushed back yet again?   :unsure:

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 12:30 AM

They tend to announce major OS releases two weeks before they ship. Smart money seems to be on the 26th (since they also tend to release on Fridays.) In which case there should be an announcement at the end of this week.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 05:58 AM

Does anyone want this? how much will it cost anyhow?
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 06:20 AM

View PostQuantaCat, on October 9th 2007, 06:58 AM, said:

Does anyone want this? how much will it cost anyhow?
I still debating it honestly, but it does look pretty fricken sweet! At least $129.00.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 06:27 AM

It seems worth my $80-something for a student copy. I just hooked up a network drive to my router, so I'm ready for automated backups. Some of the new UI features look sexy, too.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 08:40 AM

ill probably be getting it toot sweet, and hopefully itll speed my OSX boot times up, which atm are around one and a half minutes, and i believe has been mentioned as being something to do with boot camp...

also, ill probably delete OSX and start afresh, which will be fun filled weekend for me :D
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 09:57 AM

Just ordered extra hard drives for Time Machine. And this will probably be the push that makes me dip my squeamish toe into Boot Camp.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 10:17 AM

It is worth the up grade trust me a...err...reliable source...tells me so ;).

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 10:27 AM

I'm incredibly hyped for this upgrade, even though it will probably be the last OS to grace my dual 2.5GHz G5... but it looks like the PPC platform will go out with a glorified boom. Leopard looks so incredible sweet I don't even wanna dream what 10.6 Rabid Battle Cat will be like on my Mac Pro (or equivalent) 2 or so years from now. It will probably have Dynamic Litter-Boxes that fills itself with crap if you're not being productive enough hand so on... but until then, Leopard with its new awesome, brushed metal free interface, improved Open GL, Time Machine and free ice cream will hopefully keep me satisfied for a long time. It's not that I dislike Tiger to start with... Leopard just seems to be SOO MUCH MORE.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 11:28 AM

XCode 3. Nuff said. The developer improvements far outweigh the consumer improvements, but that's just going to lead to nicer software.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 12:39 PM

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 12:51 PM

View PostQuicksilver, on October 9th 2007, 08:39 PM, said:

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Better like this? :)
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 01:13 PM

View PostWhaleman, on October 9th 2007, 09:27 AM, said:

I don't even wanna dream what 10.6 Rabid Battle Cat will be like on my Mac Pro

Well, that's a pretty good name. I've been wondering what they're going to do next as they've run through most of the big cats, and calling a new OS "Ocelot" probably wont fly. tBC--you better hurry up and get a copyright so you can pay for the next upgrade.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 02:23 PM

Having run out of big cats, they'll have to move on to some other majestic, awe-inspiring animals. OS 10.6: 'Skink', 'Weevil', 'Aardvark', 'Nematode', ...
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 02:47 PM

I can't single out a feature that would make 10.5 so essential : I think the global bug fixes (like the finder hanging when a network drive become inaccessible), the performance increase (multi cpu/core systems should be handled better) and a better UI are making the best parts of Leopard.

As John Gruber (from daringfireball) pointed out, leopard will probably end up being a very mature OS. All MacOS X version have always been good, but always had many limitations (weak ftp support, painful finder, slow UI...). I hope Leopard will fix all these annoyance and finally become what MacOS X was meant to be.

Overall I have quite high expectations for Leopard.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 03:09 PM

as far as im concerned, 10.3 was what 10.0 shouldve been. it had a good mix of speed, simplicity and features. But Apple being Apple meant that they dont update it anymore and its now a dead end system. 10.4 and 10.5 are adding features which are to become more and more superfluous and "pointless" almost... but its almost worth the price of admission just to keep getting the updates and fixes etc. etc.

im hoping for some decent OGL improvements in various areas, but im not getting my hopes up too much...
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 03:45 PM

Hey, in addition to Ocelot they still have Bobcat, Caracal, Cougar, Lion, Lynx, Margay, and Serval to work with, assuming they don't mind using slightly smaller cats as well.

There are just a huge number of improvements in Leopard which really add up. Killer features for me (apart from the new XCode which is really ancillary to the OS) are pervasive performance improvements, including all the libraries and bundled apps being 64-bit which equals an automatic speed boost on x86-64; resolution-independence for UI elements; OpenGL 2.1 (plus performance improvements and bug fixes); and some really nice security features (including the ability to specify exactly what access each program has to resources).

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 05:21 PM

what about Tabby??
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 06:31 PM

View Postjgwdoc, on October 9th 2007, 12:13 PM, said:

Well, that's a pretty good name. I've been wondering what they're going to do next as they've run through most of the big cats, and calling a new OS "Ocelot" probably wont fly. tBC--you better hurry up and get a copyright so you can pay for the next upgrade.
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 01:14 AM

View PostTesseract, on October 9th 2007, 03:45 PM, said:

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Killer features for me (apart from the new XCode which is really ancillary to the OS) are pervasive performance improvements, including all the libraries and bundled apps being 64-bit which equals an automatic speed boost on x86-64; resolution-independence for UI elements; OpenGL 2.1 (plus performance improvements and bug fixes); and some really nice security features (including the ability to specify exactly what access each program has to resources).

Resolution independence is not making it for Leopard. Just as in Tiger, only through developers utilities will it be accessible.

As for 64-bit it doesn't translate into a speed boost. Basically, apps can use more ram. There might some applications that will be optimized for 64 bit, but in most cases, it won't mean a speed boost. However, updates at the lowest level of the OS surely will : http://developer.app...oundations.html