[ijedi42]

Just got this in the mail, i cant wait to fire up the old performa mac lol!

[Matt Diamond]

I can't bear to let mine go, even though it seems to fetch a good price. Wish it still ran under OS X.

It occurs to me that if I got an Intel Mac I could pick up a copy of the PC version and try that. It's all software graphics, might even run under Parallels. Hmm.

[ijedi42]

Matt Diamond, on July 19th 2007, 10:12 PM, said:

I can't bear to let mine go, even though it seems to fetch a good price. Wish it still ran under OS X.

It occurs to me that if I got an Intel Mac I could pick up a copy of the PC version and try that. It's all software graphics, might even run under Parallels. Hmm.

yeah mine got lost somehow, girlfriend at the time maybe? but i have heard u can get a pc version running on Win XP, it wasn't pretty how it got done but it is doable. To bad the same cant be done for os x.

[Douglas]

ijedi42, on July 19th 2007, 11:41 PM, said:

yeah mine got lost somehow, girlfriend at the time maybe? but i have heard u can get a pc version running on Win XP, it wasn't pretty how it got done but it is doable. To bad the same cant be done for os x.

Isn't there a Macintosh Classic emulator that can be run in OS X on an Intel Mac to get older mac classic games like Tie Fighter working? Hmmm...an emulator running under an emulator...I wonder if this would work??? This is exactly why I keep both an old iBook and Blue & White Mac around....

Hey...couldn't you run "Parallels" on an Intel Mac and then under "Windows 95/98" run one of the Windows based Mac Emulators like "Basalisk"? Would this work? Kind of a weird way to get Tie Fighter working though....lets see...Intel Mac, running Parallels, which is running Windows 98, which in turn is running a Mac emulator (basalisk), which is running the mac version of Tie Fighter...

My head hurts.

Douglas

[Eric5h5]

Douglas, on July 22nd 2007, 02:35 AM, said:

Isn't there a Macintosh Classic emulator that can be run in OS X on an Intel Mac to get older mac classic games like Tie Fighter working? Hmmm...an emulator running under an emulator

Yes there is, but it's not an emulator running under an emulator, it's just an emulator running on OS X. It's called Sheepshaver and it's a universal binary, so it doesn't use Rosetta. The bad part is, emulators are rarely 100% accurate, and in this case TIE Fighter doesn't work.

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Hey...couldn't you run "Parallels" on an Intel Mac and then under "Windows 95/98" run one of the Windows based Mac Emulators like "Basalisk"? Would this work?

No, there's no point; all Classic Mac emulators that exist already have OS X versions, as far as I know. Basilisk II only emulates 68K Macs in any case, so it won't run TIE Fighter, which is PPC-only. What you could probably do is run Parallels and then run the Windows version of TIE Fighter, but the bad part is that TIE Fighter was one of those games that was made during the brief period when Mac versions of games were noticely superior to PC versions (running in 640x480 instead of 320x240).

Hopefully this clears up your headache. At this time, the best way of running TIE Fighter is to have an actual PPC Mac that runs OS 9 natively. This is something I don't have, but I do have TIE Fighter, which I got from eBay a couple of years ago...and the faint hope that someday, there will be a Classic emulator that works perfectly....

--Eric

[Douglas]

Eric5h5, on July 22nd 2007, 12:40 AM, said:

Yes there is, but it's not an emulator running under an emulator, it's just an emulator running on OS X. It's called Sheepshaver and it's a universal binary, so it doesn't use Rosetta. The bad part is, emulators are rarely 100% accurate, and in this case TIE Fighter doesn't work.
No, there's no point; all Classic Mac emulators that exist already have OS X versions, as far as I know. Basilisk II only emulates 68K Macs in any case, so it won't run TIE Fighter, which is PPC-only. What you could probably do is run Parallels and then run the Windows version of TIE Fighter, but the bad part is that TIE Fighter was one of those games that was made during the brief period when Mac versions of games were noticely superior to PC versions (running in 640x480 instead of 320x240).

Hopefully this clears up your headache. At this time, the best way of running TIE Fighter is to have an actual PPC Mac that runs OS 9 natively. This is something I don't have, but I do have TIE Fighter, which I got from eBay a couple of years ago...and the faint hope that someday, there will be a Classic emulator that works perfectly....

--Eric

True about "Tie Fighter"...however the collectors edition of "X-Wing" will run on a 68040 so I suppose you could use Basilisk II to run that game at least. Why doesn't "Tie Fighter" run under Sheepshaver? I wonder what the problem is? Bummer either way.

Douglas

[Eric5h5]

Douglas, on July 22nd 2007, 11:16 AM, said:

True about "Tie Fighter"...however the collectors edition of "X-Wing" will run on a 68040 so I suppose you could use Basilisk II to run that game at least.

Nope. Also doesn't work...I think it's the copy protection, which the emulator can't handle. You can run everything fine up until you try to start the first mission, but then it aborts with an error message. Years ago I was able to run it on a different emulator (that had low-level disc routines that could deal with the copy protection), however it's not an emulator that runs on Macs, or Windows for that matter.

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Why doesn't "Tie Fighter" run under Sheepshaver? I wonder what the problem is?

Probably similar reasons why it doesn't work under Classic...LucasArts did something funky with the graphics routines, and the emulators can't deal with whatever bit of hackery they did. It actually runs with Classic, you just can't see what's going on.

--Eric

[ijedi42]

man i got home from a wedding and the hangover is terrible. When i first read through this i thought i had read that Tie fighter could run in os 9 lol so the last 2 hours i was trying to get it going. NOw that im getting close to sober i see what u meant. ahhh well. Im glad my performa still works to run tie fighter its been so much fun to play again. Sadly my old tube monitor is dying as it flips the bottom image up at times. I cant even remember what u would call the monitor input on those old macs if i wanted to find a vga adapter to get a newer monitor to work with the old input slot.

[placy]

ijedi42, on July 22nd 2007, 08:47 PM, said:

man i got home from a wedding and the hangover is terrible. When i first read through this i thought i had read that Tie fighter could run in os 9 lol so the last 2 hours i was trying to get it going. NOw that im getting close to sober i see what u meant. ahhh well. Im glad my performa still works to run tie fighter its been so much fun to play again. Sadly my old tube monitor is dying as it flips the bottom image up at times. I cant even remember what u would call the monitor input on those old macs if i wanted to find a vga adapter to get a newer monitor to work with the old input slot.

Doesn't it use one of those two rows of pins DB15 video ports?