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[Mister Mumbles]

CoD 4 definitely seems to be a possibility, although I wouldn't bet on it.

For the other one, a survival horror game perhaps? Although, that would be a long shot. And I couldn't think of any recent game in that genre, excluding Penumbra.

[Ichigo27]

Silent Hill 3 would be a nice addtion to OS X, I doubt it though. Id laugh if Aspyr ports RE 4.

[Smoke_Tetsu]

It's going to be uh... Zombie Tycoon?

Oh wait.. it's going to be the   game!

Hmmm... one genre that the Mac hasn't had before? Well it's definitely not a FPS, TPS an RTS or a Sim or even a racing game. Oh I know! A Mac exclusive 3D Fighting game! (yeah right)

A part of me kind of doubts it'll be anything by Capcom or Konami.. they don't seem to be interested in anything Japanese do they? I think those have a better chance of coming out on Gametap if they bring the full thing for OS X later.

[Eric5h5]

nagromme, on June 22nd 2007, 11:48 AM, said:

I might have hoped for Spore, but I don't that's expected to make Christmas anymore.

Christmas of which decade?   It's not even expected to make '08 anymore....

--Eric

[Ichigo27]

Smoke_Tetsu, on June 22nd 2007, 01:42 PM, said:

A part of me kind of doubts it'll be anything by Capcom or Konami.. they don't seem to be interested in anything Japanese do they?

You wonder weither Aspyr has something against eastern publishers such as Capcom and Konami or if it's the other way around. RE 4 and Silent Hill 3 are possible though, since they're the opposite of anything Japanese.

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Ichigo27, on June 22nd 2007, 12:47 PM, said:

You wonder weither Aspyr has something against eastern publishers such as Capcom and Konami or if it's the other way around. RE 4 and Silent Hill 3 are possible though, since they're the opposite of anything Japanese.

I don't know.. since they did bring those games to the PC after all. So they are halfway there but I still have my doubts.

[Mister Mumbles]

Frankly, I don't think there is a genre that has never had presence on the Mac, at one time or another.

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Pegasus, on June 22nd 2007, 01:27 PM, said:

Frankly, I don't think there is a genre that has never had presence on the Mac, at one time or another.

Well, there's been no AAA Fighting, Survival Horror (Resident Evil style), guitar hero type... uh.. how about vehicular combat? Or console role playing.. or Rail shooter.. or MMOFPS, or MMORTS, (I'm looking at a list of genres on wikipedia ) I'd be very surprised if it was any of the former though.

[Mister Mumbles]

Rail shooter = Rebel Assault 1 & 2

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Pegasus, on June 22nd 2007, 01:37 PM, said:

Rail shooter = Rebel Assault 1 & 2

Anything recent?

I also had this thought though.. what if they are just messing with our minds.. like.. "Let's see those poor mac gaming saps trip over themselves trying to guess what it could be!"

[Mister Mumbles]

Now that'd just be mean! Mean, I tell you!

[Janichsan]

Of the games mentioned, I'd rule out Hellgate London (uses Havok) and NHL 08 (I assume EA would do that themselves). Bioshock is also unlikely since it a) also uses Havok and b) is no new genre (the similar Deus Ex and System Shock were available for Mac). Spore would be great, but as mentioned, it won't even come to PC this year.

Hmmm.... maybe a karaoke game? SingStar anyone?

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Janichsan, on June 22nd 2007, 02:06 PM, said:

Of the games mentioned, I'd rule out Hellgate London (uses Havok) and NHL 08 (I assume EA would do that themselves). Bioshock is also unlikely since it a) also uses Havok and b) is no new genre (the similar Deus Ex and System Shock were available for Mac). Spore would be great, but as mentioned, it won't even come to PC this year.

Hmmm.... maybe a karaoke game? SingStar anyone?

Someone mentioned Hellgate London? Isn't that some kind of FPS\RPG type thing anyway?

[BenRoethig]

Janichsan, on June 22nd 2007, 03:06 PM, said:

Of the games mentioned, I'd rule out Hellgate London (uses Havok) and NHL 08 (I assume EA would do that themselves). Bioshock is also unlikely since it a) also uses Havok and b) is no new genre (the similar Deus Ex and System Shock were available for Mac). Spore would be great, but as mentioned, it won't even come to PC this year.

Hmmm.... maybe a karaoke game? SingStar anyone?

Starcraft II uses Havok.  Hellgate is is being developed by flagship studios which is more or less spun off from Blizzard North.  They're used to doing Mac versions as well.  Being the original developer, they have much more bargaining power than Aspyr.  If they were to leverage the PC version of Hellgate against discounted rates for the Mac version, I think Havok would play ball.  When it comes down to it, the revenue from the PC side is important.  The Mac version isn't that significant to havok.

Smoke_Tetsu, on June 22nd 2007, 03:25 PM, said:

Someone mentioned Hellgate London? Isn't that some kind of FPS\RPG type thing anyway?

The best way I could describe it would be to combine the best elements of Dues Ex and Diablo into one game.

[Smoke_Tetsu]

BenRoethig, on June 22nd 2007, 02:46 PM, said:

Starcraft II uses Havok.

I kind of think that's simply because they have deep pockets from WoW. It's the exception.. not the rule. Tell me I'm wrong.

[Mister Mumbles]

So instead of hacking a non-stop stream of monster clones you'll end up shooting them?

[teflon]

it uses havok though...

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Pegasus, on June 22nd 2007, 02:55 PM, said:

So instead of hacking a non-stop stream of monster clones you'll end up shooting them?

Shooting, hacking or uh.. electrocuting them... perhaps setting them on fire too?

[Janichsan]

BenRoethig, on June 22nd 2007, 10:46 PM, said:

Starcraft II uses Havok.  Hellgate is is being developed by flagship studios which is more or less spun off from Blizzard North.  They're used to doing Mac versions as well.  Being the original developer, they have much more bargaining power than Aspyr.  If they were to leverage the PC version of Hellgate against discounted rates for the Mac version, I think Havok would play ball.  When it comes down to it, the revenue from the PC side is important.  The Mac version isn't that significant to havok.

I thought we have discussed this over and over: the license fees for Havok are so excruciating high that no Mac porting company can afford it. We are not talking about Blizzard here, but about Aspyr, remember?

Secondly: while the developers of Hellgate may have spun off Blizzard, they are not Blizzard and have no further existing connection to Blizzard at all. Hence they do not own a license for the Mac version of Havok.

Thirdly: Blizzard didn't get a discount for the Mac license for Havok. So it's reasonable to assume that Flagship will neither.

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Janichsan, on June 22nd 2007, 02:59 PM, said:

I thought we have discussed this over and over: the license fees for Havok are so excruciating high that no Mac porting company can afford it.

Kind of makes me wonder though (not that I'm trying to make any kind of argument here just thinking and your point still stands.. it's correct).. if it's so high I wonder how the bean counters at other game companies justify paying such a high licensing fee without the guarantee that they are going to be selling billions upon billions of copies on the PC to recoup the cost? I'm guessing it's high enough to be out of reach for mac porting houses but low enough that it makes sense for PC game companies. I mean they've even used it in games like Evil Dead: Regeneration.