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Posted 13 March 2008 - 08:12 PM

View PostGloops, on March 13th 2008, 03:01 AM, said:

I suggest you persevere. I bought Morrowind recently, after my trip through Crodiil, and I felt the same way when I started out; old graphics, bad combat, confusing - but I persevered and now I'm hooked.

I'll probably revisit it when I'm in less of an impatient, cranky, FPS mood. Right now, all I want to do is get headshots like FPS Doug of "Pure Pwnage" fame. I guess I have some latent anger issues that need resolving through extreme virtual violence.   :D

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 11:11 PM

i get that. :nods:

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 09:31 AM

I started Morrowind, felt the same way and did not persevere. Visually and interactively it's a tough adjustment from Oblivion. However I'm holding it for when I finish up the Witcher and Crysis.

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 12:00 PM

View PostHuntn, on September 13th 2007, 08:18 AM, said:

For reference, which FPS and RPGs do you like  that don't have a notable killing rate? :)

lol, this is going back a few months but I'm not opposed to killing in FPS/RPGs. There just a fairly broad range of FPS, one end of them is games like The Punisher and the other end, in my opinion is games like Splinter Cell. For any of you guys who have played the punisher i'll say it was fun for about half an hour and then u just start thinking to yourself, "why am I playing this game", cuz it has no depth to it. Now i'm not saying Bioshock has no depth to it cuz I have never played the game but the impression I got from various people was that you just got a new weopon/skill set in order to kill a new and fun way. So i thought it was a mindless murder fest game, lol, but i see its clearly not cuz of the sheer number of people who love the game.

the genre of FPS I like are the strategy kind where you have to spend all of your skill and stealth capabilities in order to get to some window across a square in the city where you can make that perfect sniper shot. Games like Splinter Cell. I also like any Tom Clancy game and Assasins Creed, and Hitman 2 was fun. For RPGs i frequently enjoy Oblivion.


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Posted 14 March 2008 - 01:21 PM

Hitman is one of the most "mindless" killing games. But it does so in a creative and "credible" way, that I love it. I really do. Maybe it's the same what draws me to bioshock, although the mood is obviously very different from hitman; the creativity in this game. The involvement. The tension.
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 09:41 PM

I could never stand the art in Hitman, i always thought it just looked crap. one of the reasons why i couldnt play it.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 06:57 AM

View PostSneaky Snake, on March 14th 2008, 01:00 PM, said:

Now i'm not saying Bioshock has no depth to it cuz I have never played the game but the impression I got from various people was that you just got a new weopon/skill set in order to kill a new and fun way. So i thought it was a mindless murder fest game, lol, but i see its clearly not cuz of the sheer number of people who love the game.

Something strange happened to me on the way to the final boss in Bioshock, I ran into a mental wall of some kind and can't bring my self to complete the game. I'm heading for Andrew Ryan's office which I think is the end. Depending on your impression the atmosphere can be very compressed, very heavy, and if you get into it very depressing. Maybe it's from being at the bottom of the ocean. But I'm seeing a repetitiveness of the type of attacks and the same wacko babbling from all of my adversaries. I'm about to crack! :) So I'll take a break and maybe come back to it later.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 11:50 AM

View PostHuntn, on March 15th 2008, 08:57 AM, said:

Something strange happened to me on the way to the final boss in Bioshock, I ran into a mental wall of some kind and can't bring my self to complete the game. I'm heading for Andrew Ryan's office which I think is the end.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 05:16 PM

View PostQuantaCat, on March 14th 2008, 03:21 PM, said:

Hitman is one of the most "mindless" killing games. But it does so in a creative and "credible" way, that I love it. I really do. Maybe it's the same what draws me to bioshock, although the mood is obviously very different from hitman; the creativity in this game. The involvement. The tension.

I vote that Hitman is not a mindless killing game (oh snap :P ). Ya, it can be a mindless killing game but your gonna lose pretty much all of the missions if you just go rambo on the whole enemy team, unless its the 1st 1-3 missions cuz they're real easy. After that your screwed if you do any charges into no mans land with your Ballers. That's my Hitman 2 experience, no clue what any of the other ones are like.


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Posted 15 March 2008 - 11:16 PM

View PostSneaky Snake, on March 15th 2008, 07:16 PM, said:

I vote that Hitman is not a mindless killing game (oh snap :P ). Ya, it can be a mindless killing game but your gonna lose pretty much all of the missions if you just go rambo on the whole enemy team, unless its the 1st 1-3 missions cuz they're real easy. After that your screwed if you do any charges into no mans land with your Ballers. That's my Hitman 2 experience, no clue what any of the other ones are like.
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 02:02 AM

I cant quite remember which hitman game it was I played (the latest one maybe?), but they were such ridiculous exercises in frustration that after a while of sneaking around id just kill the target then shoot my way out of there... so much easier... but it was the poor level design which made it really difficult to do it without killing that made it a mindless killing game.
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 01:33 PM

Yeah but killing people for money is in my opinion mindless. I should have said that, sorry.

Yes of course, I always try to kill only the "necessary" ones. But still. And the funny thing is, in the art of Hitman 1, the hitman looks like Pete Postlethwaite. Too bad he was played by a "youngin" in the movie.

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I cant quite remember which hitman game it was I played (the latest one maybe?), but they were such ridiculous exercises in frustration that after a while of sneaking around id just kill the target then shoot my way out of there... so much easier... but it was the poor level design which made it really difficult to do it without killing that made it a mindless killing game.
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Because Blood Money was the best one of the series, maybe even surpassing the first one. (BM didnt appear on OSX yet.)
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 02:06 PM

View PostQuantaCat, on March 16th 2008, 03:33 PM, said:

Yeah but killing people for money is in my opinion mindless. I should have said that, sorry.

hmm, you do have a point, cuz there's no real point to the killing so I guess it would be mindless


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View PostDark_Archon, on March 16th 2008, 01:16 AM, said:

Aren't there even awards for not killing anybody but the target?

ya, i think so, I haven't played the game in about a year
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 03:03 PM

View PostQuantaCat, on March 17th 2008, 06:33 AM, said:

Yeah but killing people for money is in my opinion mindless. I should have said that, sorry.

Because Blood Money was the best one of the series, maybe even surpassing the first one. (BM didnt appear on OSX yet.)

But if your killing for money, your killing with the thought of money in your mind... thats not mindless :glare: :)

Blood Money was one of those games that managed to get an illegal Cider port... so yes, it kinda did make it to OS X.

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 04:51 PM

Really? Cool. Well in any case, I already played through it, and I am looking forward to a sequel. Although I hope they do make one, since their latest didn't do so well.. forgot what it's called though. One where two psychopaths do missions together. Kane & lynch?
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Posted 17 March 2008 - 04:51 PM

Let's explore "mindless" killing:

1. For fun.
2. For payment.
3. In self defense.
4. For war.

All of these reasons have motivations. Probably the closest to "mindless" (as in lacking responsible thought) would be No.1. Most games seem to fall into No. 3&4 which also fall into the category of most justifiable and most likely of any shooter category that parents will let their kids play. No.2 is sinister. No.1 is despicable. I could not play GTA:San Andreas because I could not get into characters bumping off innocent people for profit. I would not classify Hitman as "mindless" but undesirable, although some very challenging and fun scenarios could be created based on the premise. I would have to use Arnold's train of thought when asked if he killed people (True Lies)- "Yes, but they were all bad." :)

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 05:56 PM

"yes, but they were all computer generated"

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