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#21 Janichsan

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 02:30 PM

View Postnagromme, on June 5th 2007, 07:29 PM, said:

I can't seem to find any Mac benchmarks for 128 vs. 256 VRAM on otherwise identical hardware. Anyone know of any such tests? Just how big a performance improvement do you get (on past machines with modern games like Quake 4) if you spring for 256, all other things being equal

View Postteflon, on June 5th 2007, 08:24 PM, said:

i believe barfeats said, at one point, not on a chart, that the difference was around 3-5% in doom 3 and UT2004... so it depends on how much FSAA you intend on using, and the quality of the textures that you want, and if you have $500 to spare.
That's more or less what I remember, too. I've seen another article somewhere, where they had a benchmark just on this topic (128MB MBP vs 256 MB MBP) with graphs and bells and whistles. The gains where marginal, only when some very big chunks of graphics were lugged around (huge textures or extremely huge graphics in Quartz) there were some advantages. This might change with future games, though.

View PostSargiel, on June 5th 2007, 07:37 PM, said:

Edit: http://www.legionhar....php?id=637&p=3 ... that's not very encouraging.

View Postnagromme, on June 5th 2007, 08:12 PM, said:

Is that the mobile version you link to? It says 8600, not 8600M.
It's the desktop version. Welcome to the Wonderful World of Nvidia's Model Naming Scheme: while the GeForce 8600 GT for desktop computers is the smallest (and less powerful) version (the bigger version is the 8600 GTS), the GeForce 8600M GT for notebooks is the most powerful one (the smaller version is the 8600M GS). Very simple and completely comprehensible.

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 02:53 PM

Well, I hope this is evidence that the desktop version of the 8600 will be available for Mac Pros soon. I sure would love to play me some Crysis.

Halo 2? Not so much.

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 03:51 PM

View PostAtticus, on June 5th 2007, 04:53 PM, said:

Well, I hope this is evidence that the desktop version of the 8600 will be available for Mac Pros soon. I sure would love to play me some Crysis.

Halo 2? Not so much.

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I would hope for the 8800 myself - as noted in those benchmarks, the desktop 8600 is a bit underwhelming.
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Posted 05 June 2007 - 05:33 PM

View Postnobody, on June 5th 2007, 09:51 PM, said:

I would hope for the 8800 myself - as noted in those benchmarks, the desktop 8600 is a bit underwhelming.

OOps. I meant the 8800. Or the new Radeons. Whatever--JUST GIMME HOT DX10 LUV.
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Posted 05 June 2007 - 06:02 PM

does anyone understand me right now when i say i want to die?

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 06:17 PM

View Postaussiemacgamer, on June 6th 2007, 12:02 AM, said:

does anyone understand me right now when i say i want to die?

Nope, I for one am just selling mine and getting a new one. But then again you have been enjoying using your for what four months, that must be worth something?

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 06:38 PM

well...not really. its been four months of bug ridden, tedius use...and all at a $3200 Pricetag

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 06:41 PM

Just picked up mine (high-end 15") today.  No complaints so far--let me know if you want some kind of benchmarks (I'm a bit short on time, so keep it down to one or two titles, please). :)
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Posted 05 June 2007 - 07:03 PM

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 08:28 PM

Congrats Quicksilver. I think that I'm going to grab the base model after I see what's announced at WWDC. Shame that 256 VRAM isn't BTO, but it's not a big deal.

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 08:30 PM

I can't wait until barfeats gets their hand on one of them so we can find out what they're really made of.

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 08:32 PM

View Postaussiemacgamer, on June 5th 2007, 08:02 PM, said:

does anyone understand me right now when i say i want to die?
Yes - the people buying today's MBPs, in 6-8 months when the next update comes  :happy:

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 08:36 PM

its a Vicious cycle innit

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 08:36 PM

View Postdualg4, on June 5th 2007, 09:28 PM, said:

Congrats Quicksilver. I think that I'm going to grab the base model after I see what's announced at WWDC. Shame that 256 VRAM isn't BTO, but it's not a big deal.

Thanks, and I totally agree.  128 MB of VRAM is a lot like 512 MB of RAM these days--it's the bare minimum, and you really want four times more.  

I wonder if there's enough demand for an actual system review.  If enough of you guys pile on this thread (and send me cool little doodads to adorn my travel bag), I might become motivated enough to write a review of the MacBook Pro including Windows XP and Vista benchmarks. ;)
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Posted 05 June 2007 - 09:55 PM

View Postnagromme, on June 5th 2007, 11:29 AM, said:

nd any Mac benchmarks for 128 vs. 256 VRAM on otherwise identical hardware. Anyone know of any such tests?

They'd have to be done with that new GPU because you can't directly compare older GPUs and that one well you can by doing FPS benchmarks but it wouldn't give you the right picture as to how the new GPU would perform. This is a DX10 part.. (hooray).

Funny thing is.. I've had friends tell me that 32MB VRAM should be enough for anyone that 128MB is overkill for a video card. :P


When and if they bring the GeForce 8 series to the Mac Pro it better be the top of the line 8800. The 8600 isn't exactly top of the line (not insinuating it's bad) and a Mac Pro is a top of the line kind of computer (come on.. it is!)... it's taking it a few notches down. I bet they chose it simply because it's cooler since there IS an 8800 mobile. Although I'm kind of surprised they chose to go with it at all I almost thought they would just bump the CPU... perhaps the standard amount of ram... hard drive and that's it.

I hope they put this chip in the iMac though.  But perhaps since there is presumably more room in the iMac they can put an 8800 mobile.. (one can dream).
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It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.

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Slower and faster? I'm sorry to hear such good news?

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 09:59 PM

Kill Me :bleedingeyes:

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 10:01 PM

I'll oblige, *BANG*! :bleedingeyes: :lol:
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Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:

It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.

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Slower and faster? I'm sorry to hear such good news?

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 10:48 PM

View Postaussiemacgamer, on June 5th 2007, 08:59 PM, said:

Kill Me :bleedingeyes:
dude, don't act like we weren't just conspiring on AIM to find a way to cheat apple care for a new machine. :P

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 10:54 PM

shhhhhhhhh!


....and that was after i died

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 01:36 AM

View PostQuicksilver, on June 6th 2007, 03:36 AM, said:

I wonder if there's enough demand for an actual system review.  If enough of you guys pile on this thread (and send me cool little doodads to adorn my travel bag), I might become motivated enough to write a review of the MacBook Pro including Windows XP and Vista benchmarks. ;)

if you can do it in the next 3-4 hours, then go mental. im ordering later today. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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