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On Tuesday, IMG held a chat with Aspyr's Glenda Adams. The crowd in the chat room asked Glenda several interesting questions about Aspyr, The Gamerhood, Apple's Mac Pro, Cider, and much more. A transcript of the event, in case you missed it, is available by following the link below.

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[Ichigo27]

GlendaAdams, on August 15th 2006, said:

Capcom games haven't historically come to the Mac, so unfortuntely it's pretty unlikely. Fighting games like Guilty Gear also just don't seem to be a big draw on the Mac, so I'm afraid that isn't likely.

Out of curiosity, did you go to Capcom and Ubi Soft for permission to see if they turn down the offer, or was that judging by Capcom's past?

I'm guessing you did or did not go to Sammy Studios  for Guilty Gear XX either.

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Ichigo27, on August 17th 2006, 01:39 PM, said:

Out of curiosity, did you go to Capcom and Ubi Soft for permission to see if they turn down the offer, or was that judging by Capcom's past?

I'm guessing you did or did not go to Sammy Studios  for Guilty Gear XX either.

When I was saw that I was like, hey! You actually asked! lol Anyway... I am not surprised about her answer but GGX is a Sega\Sammy game.. not Capcom.  But speaking of Capcom it would be nice to see some of their games come out for the Mac and for the PC. Of course they got games such as Devil May Cry and Onimusha but there are also other interesting games coming out one which after seeing Stubbs might be a good fit for Aspyr as a sort of followup of sorts.. Dead Rising. At any rate since the first two are pretty much done but still being worked on and patches are coming out (just saw a patch for DMC3 released) they can be for example ciderized to help ease the transition. They would be nice titles to see put on Gamerhood.

I had thought of something if we where to play games such as GGXX on Crossover is I wonder if they have dinput support via HID in it so we can use peripherals such as gamepad. Works good in Windows (on my laptop) but I just wonder if since games are actually not their focus if they would offer that support.

[Ichigo27]

Smoke_Tetsu, on August 17th 2006, 03:08 PM, said:

When I was saw that I was like, hey! You actually asked! lol Anyway... I am not surprised about her answer but GGX is a Sega\Sammy game.. not Capcom.

When I asked her that question I ask her about 2 different games created by 2 different companies. Therefore I was fully aware that GGX wasn't made by capcom before I asked her that.

Smoke_Tetsu, on August 17th 2006, 03:08 PM, said:

But speaking of Capcom it would be nice to see some of their games come out for the Mac and for the PC. Of course they got games such as Devil May Cry and Onimusha but there are also other interesting games coming out one which after seeing Stubbs might be a good fit for Aspyr as a sort of followup of sorts.. Dead Rising. At any rate since the first two are pretty much done but still being worked on and patches are coming out (just saw a patch for DMC3 released) they can be for example ciderized to help ease the transition. They would be nice titles to see put on Gamerhood.

As Dead Rising interests other people I want to see a port of Monster Hunter or a rerelease of Power Stone. But I still want a port of Devil May Cry 3 and Onimusha 3

[Nookster]

Power Stone Collection is out in a few months, albeit for the PSP, there's your contender.

A Mac version without a good pad would be about as much fun as Lego Star Wars on the keyboard. (not that the PSP has much to shout about in the controls department).

A bigger draw than all of these titles put together (on a Mac anyway) would be RE4, which, for the PC, seems to be cancelled, so no luck there either.

[Ichigo27]

Nookster, on August 17th 2006, 05:00 PM, said:

A bigger draw than all of these titles put together (on a Mac anyway) would be RE4, which, for the PC, seems to be cancelled, so no luck there either.

The game hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed to death. Earlier this year Capcom made an agreement to let Ubi Soft publish the windows version of RE4 but all Ubi Soft is saying previously "Hopefully in a few weeks".

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Nookster, on August 17th 2006, 04:00 PM, said:

Power Stone Collection is out in a few months, albeit for the PSP, there's your contender.

A Mac version without a good pad would be about as much fun as Lego Star Wars on the keyboard. (not that the PSP has much to shout about in the controls department).

A bigger draw than all of these titles put together (on a Mac anyway) would be RE4, which, for the PC, seems to be cancelled, so no luck there either.

You can use any USB pad with OS X as long as the game supports HID and you can use adaptors to use any console pad as well. And no, RE4 isn't cancelled on the PC. What would be cool is if it was delayed because it's being Ciderized.

[Aika]

Those games are much better off staying on PS2 instead of using up Aspyr's resources. I rented and completed Onimusha 3 more than two years ago, Guilty Gear is only popular in Japan and DMC3:SE had a horrible PC port. If you want console games then you buy a console

The news of older games being on Gamerhood and Quake Wars looking likely is great news though!

[Jan]

Aika, on August 18th 2006, 01:26 AM, said:

Those games are much better off staying on PS2 instead of using up Aspyr's resources. I rented and completed Onimusha 3 more than two years ago, Guilty Gear is only popular in Japan and DMC3:SE had a horrible PC port. If you want console games then you buy a console

The news of older games being on Gamerhood and Quake Wars looking likely is great news though!

Isn't Prey based on the Doom-3-Engine? That would make an easier port and it's also a great game. Quake Wars and Prey – hell yeah! But, damn, I want a new RPG!  

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Aika, on August 17th 2006, 05:26 PM, said:

Those games are much better off staying on PS2 instead of using up Aspyr's resources. I rented and completed Onimusha 3 more than two years ago, Guilty Gear is only popular in Japan and DMC3:SE had a horrible PC port. If you want console games then you buy a console

The news of older games being on Gamerhood and Quake Wars looking likely is great news though!

And it's just that kind of attitude that will keep it that way. People are allowed to play PC games like FPS on a console so I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed the reverse. Plus it just gives us more games which is a plus. The problem is I guess they don't have the most experienced people doing ports or something to that effect but it is possible to do a good port and have it come out good. In fact it was on a PC that I played and completed the original Resident Evil and I had a lot of fun. So just because you are against it doesn't mean no one would like it in fact there are enough people that they bothered to port all those games to the PC to begin with.

Maybe Aspyr shouldn't put all their resources on it but if Cider is all that it's cracked up to be then it should work fine for those kind of games so it might be a better thing for Transgaming to look into making deals with the companies who are doing PC ports to ciderize them. P.S. A patch has just came out for DMC3 so they are still working on it. The major complaint I heard people having is the controls but there is a control configuration utility that can be used now and you can hook up an Xbox 360 controller and it's compatible. Plus the US version isn't even out yet.. that game may be one of the ones in the upcoming Cider deal.. you never know.

I do agree though that them saying they would like to bring all the Doom 3 engine games to OS X is good news. I am in line for all of them, Prey.. Quake Wars, etc.

[Ichigo27]

Smoke_Tetsu, on August 17th 2006, 06:45 PM, said:

Maybe Aspyr shouldn't put all their resources on it but if Cider is all that it's cracked up to be then it should work fine for those kind of games so it might be a better thing for Transgaming to look into making deals with the companies who are doing PC ports to ciderize them. P.S. A patch has just came out for DMC3 so they are still working on it.The major complaint I heard people having is the controls but there is a control configuration utility that can be used now and you can hook up an Xbox 360 controller and it's compatible. Plus the US version isn't even out yet.. that game may be one of the ones in the upcoming Cider deal.. you never know.

The US version is supose to hit in 18 days if Ubi Soft doesn't delay it again alongside RE4.

Smoke_Tetsu, on August 17th 2006, 06:45 PM, said:

I do agree though that them saying they would like to bring all the Doom 3 engine games to OS X is good news. I am in line for all of them, Prey.. Quake Wars, etc.

So far the games created with the doom 3 engine haven't been dissipointing IMHO. I like Prey and Doom 3. Quake Wars has to come out on OS X, it looks too good to pass.

[Aika]

Smoke_Tetsu, on August 18th 2006, 12:45 AM, said:

And it's just that kind of attitude that will keep it that way. People are allowed to play PC games like FPS on a console so I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed the reverse.

I agree but given the limited resources that Aspyr has, I would rather they concentrate on porting PC games than console games that have traditionally never sold very well on Windows. PS2s are fairly inexpensive now so these games are easily accessible anyway.

I too played and completed the first Resident Evil on PC by the way. Being able to skip the door animations was a nice touch!

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Aika, on August 17th 2006, 06:02 PM, said:

I agree but given the limited resources that Aspyr has, I would rather they concentrate on porting PC games than console games that have traditionally never sold very well on Windows. PS2s are fairly inexpensive now so these games are easily accessible anyway.

I too played and completed the first Resident Evil on PC by the way. Being able to skip the door animations was a nice touch!

Yeah, that's why I said maybe it's a better thing for companies like transgaming to do. The bottom line for me is I prefer to play games on a computer and if I have to I'll play them in windows but it would be nice for them to be available for Mac too. I wouldn't mind if someone gave me a console to play those few games though, =p

[Ichigo27]

Smoke_Tetsu, on August 17th 2006, 07:12 PM, said:

The bottom line for me is I prefer to play games on a computer and if I have to I'll play them in windows but it would be nice for them to be available for Mac too. I wouldn't mind if someone gave me a console to play those few games though, =p

Although I like to play titles on a console, it's a great concept to play your favorite console games on a computer.

[StopDropBurn]

Why would someone want to play DMC3 on a computer? I know it is on the PC, and it is awful, full of glitches, you use the G key for firing FAs for heaven's sake!

[Nookster]

Ichigo27, on August 17th 2006, 11:42 PM, said:

"Hopefully in a few weeks".

And not a word since.  

September if you believe Wal-Mart.

[Ichigo27]

Nookster, on August 17th 2006, 10:06 PM, said:

And not a word since.  

That came from an article 2 days ago, not 6 months ago.

Nookster, on August 17th 2006, 10:06 PM, said:

September if you believe Wal-Mart.

Gamespot.com, Barnes&Noble, and Gamestop post the same release date.

[Nookster]

Smoke_Tetsu, on August 18th 2006, 12:13 AM, said:

You can use any USB pad with OS X as long as the game supports HID and you can use adaptors to use any console pad as well.

That's what my Xbrick pad pretends to do - until you actually try to configure anything useful, due to the inevitable lack of proper in-game HID support, the old Gravis X-terminator at had a bit more luck, but it's an utterly crap pad.

And that's a fundamental part of the console-PC problem, rubbish pads, poor support.

Ichigo27, on August 18th 2006, 04:25 AM, said:

That came from an article 2 days ago, not 6 months ago.
Gamespot.com, Barnes&Noble, and Gamestop post the same release date.

And Amazon say the 30th  

[Smoke_Tetsu]

Nookster, on August 17th 2006, 09:33 PM, said:

That's what my Xbrick pad pretends to do - until you actually try to configure anything useful, due to the inevitable lack of proper in-game HID support, the old Gravis X-terminator at had a bit more luck, but it's an utterly crap pad.

And that's a fundamental part of the console-PC problem, rubbish pads, poor support.
And Amazon say the 30th  

I must be lucky because in my games save for MacMame and the pangea games before they where updated. I don't have that many problems. Also the same for games and emulators on the PC using the same pad. I use a Saitek P880 and I really like it. Really nice D-pad that makes doing moves in fighting games easier.. only thing that is better for those types of games is an arcade stick. I must just be playing the right games and emulators.

Askilfeasd, on August 17th 2006, 07:37 PM, said:

Why would someone want to play DMC3 on a computer? I know it is on the PC, and it is awful, full of glitches, you use the G key for firing FAs for heaven's sake!

That's why I have a nice gamepad for heaven's sake! And that's why they are still working on it and releasing patches and that is more their fault for rushing the japanese\euro release. The latest euro patch reenables a lot of missing effects and improves gamepad support. Even if it doesn't get fully fixed it's not because the PC is incapable of such a game it's just they didn't have the best people doing the job. It's not even Capcom who did it they outsourced to another company.

[Nookster]

Smoke_Tetsu, on August 18th 2006, 08:31 AM, said:

I must be lucky because in my games save for MacMame and the pangea games before they where updated. I don't have that many problems. Also the same for games and emulators on the PC using the same pad. I use a Saitek P880 and I really like it. Really nice D-pad that makes doing moves in fighting games easier.. only thing that is better for those types of games is an arcade stick. I must just be playing the right games and emulators.

I find the real problems begin when you try to do anything meaningful with the analogue controls, triggers being registered as dials or digital inputs, sticks being ignored or confused with 8-ways, etc. Much less of a problem with the digital controls and D-button (although the Xbrick pad gets half its buttons ignored in lots of games).