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#21 Maestro

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 04:06 PM

View PostEric5h5, on July 15th 2006, 04:40 PM, said:

Let's face it, there are no compelling reasons.  Some people don't even get sarcasm in real life, so the cause is hopeless.  Those who get it, get it.  And those who don't, don't (and are losers--oops, what was that?).

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So, people who can't detect scarcasm are losers? What kind of statement is that?

I think you are nitpicking here. What I was really asking for was a rant "box".

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 06:27 PM

Don't get me wrong Maestro, I'm not arguing against a rant box.  I'm just asking for a compelling reason to have one.  The public response in this thread in favor of one seems to be fairly weak.  Bernie put his very serious statement into <Very Serious>very serious tags</Very Serious>.

Couldn't you just as easily use the fake rant tags as use BB code? /Rant

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 11:55 PM

View PostMaestro, on July 15th 2006, 06:06 PM, said:

So, people who can't detect scarcasm are losers? What kind of statement is that?

Why, a sarcastic statement, naturally!

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Posted 16 July 2006 - 08:47 AM

View PostEric5h5, on July 15th 2006, 05:40 PM, said:

Some people don't even get sarcasm in real life
Some people don't get sarcasm in real life exactly because there are no [sarcasm]-[/sarcasm] tags around spoken words.

View PostEric5h5, on July 16th 2006, 01:55 AM, said:

Nah, sorry, someone else already holds that title.  And that someone is [TACT OVERRIDE, EMERGENCY DISCONNECT]
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 10:45 AM

View Postthe Battle Cat, on July 13th 2006, 04:43 PM, said:

Yes it's possible, I know where and how to do it, but are they really needed?  You would have to talk me into it and be convincing while you are at it.

I'll tell you why! Because not everyone can tell if you are be sarcastic with text. I mean the tone of your voice is a giveaway if you are being sarcastic. But with text, no one can hear your tone. :D

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 01:30 PM

This has been brought up before but it does not say how this is more helpful or superior to the fake tags that people have been making up all along.  <sarcasm>Your dumb idea just inflated the 2˘ to 3˘, wish I had invested in your idea!</sarcasm> ... oh... and  ;)  too just in case.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 02:44 AM

How about:
[hr]

It is a function of utility - make long posts with lots of quotes and responses easier to read by breaking it up.


I suppose it is a matter of personal taste as well.

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 08:49 AM

That doesn't seem to be anything that a series of dashes or equal signs couldn't handle

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Not to mention you can control the length

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And the color

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Seems to me that text based horizontal rules rule.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 10:58 AM

Well there are two distastful aspects to the surrogate text horizontal rules:

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• The awkward tedium of holding down the key of choice to put in an inferior horizontal rule.
• A text horizontal rule does not stretch across the box, creating an "unrad" appearance.
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I would consider the addition of
to be a blessing to the IMG Forum with this basic function.

Society at large would thank you theBattleCat or maybe not.

Butt you won't know until you allow it's noble usage.

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 02:13 PM

Oh cool!  
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An underscore works even better!

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Now it's Red!

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Now it's bold!  Wowzers!

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Holy cow!  A double horizontal rule using strike out!!  Why would you want to throw all of that away?!?
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 02:41 PM

View Postthe Battle Cat, on August 9th 2006, 03:13 PM, said:

Holy cow!  A double horizontal rule using strike out!!  Why would you want to throw all of that away?!?

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 12:43 AM

View Postthe Battle Cat, on August 9th 2006, 03:13 PM, said:

Why would you want to throw all of that away?!?

I wouldn't throw it away persay, because I recycle.  ;)


OK, OK. I admit it.

There is a fair amount of innovative finese that one can flourish a posting with.

Using standard functions.


However, one drawback of "homemade" horizontal rules is the way the page is presented on smaller monitors/displays. The width of some boxes can become skewed from the rest of the board - inducing nausea.

Luckily, for civilization,
function conforms to the board while "innovative" horizontal rules can throw it out of whack.

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 09:08 AM

View PostHapa Hanu, on August 9th 2006, 11:43 PM, said:

Luckily, for civilization,
function conforms to the board while "innovative" horizontal rules can throw it out of whack.
Best argument yet for a change in the BB Code.  Now the problem will be to find someone willing to maintain the custom code base after I'm gone.  This stuff is very likely to be blown away by an Invision update and I just can't see Frigidman chasing after it.  After the custom code is gone, all the posts using the
tag will be out of whack.  Anybody have a work around for that?
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 10:15 AM

So updating the board negates custom features?

Oh man, hassle supreme.  :(

I did not realize the implications before pushing for rudimentary functions.

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 01:18 PM

after youre gone?

your not holding back on something are you???
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 01:58 PM

View PostHapa Hanu, on August 10th 2006, 09:15 AM, said:

So updating the board negates custom features?
Not necessarily, but it has happened to me in the past and even I didn't go back and restore it.

View Postteflon, on August 10th 2006, 12:18 PM, said:

after youre gone?

your not holding back on something are you???
I have absolutely no plans on leaving, but nobody lives forever, life situations change, and a mind is a fragile thing.  How long did Whaleman last before his head asploded?
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 02:42 PM

I have a couple hacks in place in the code (template related), which require me to revist the code everytime IPS decides they have to fiddle with something that doesn't fix anything. It's a migraine.

The idea this thread poses, is actually a large, and complicated alteration in the code. IPB is not written to be 'edit' friendly. It's overly complicated, convoluted, and just a big fricken mess of spaghetti.

Although it would be fun and nice to add some custom features. It's just something I don't really have the time to dedicate towards. It's a problems with using externally sourced code. The benefit of this though, is that someone else is fixing the bugs and security issues with it, and not me :D

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 04:01 AM

HI,

this is the first thread I saw the CODE box used to some extend.

Which raises the question: do we need the CODE box?

If no you could just exchange it for the RANT box.

The only useful box is the QUOTE box anyway.

Color coding and text styles for expression/tones are like a new language (which has to be learned)
and as such due to it´s singularity and arbitrarity most uneffective.

(Why does CODE loke like Courier font? Why should debauchery look like Apple Chancery.
Does Army/Stencil look masculine? though very narrow writing often indicates some form of
mental illness)

Just because you can abstract (which is color styles/coding/boxing) more does not mean
you can express more.

Language economy is about the most compact information channel, not expression overheap.

it´s all in the abiltiy to write and read in the least redundant way, which is the most common form:
text itself.

So, what I am up to is: It´s up to every single person to make themself understood and thus conform
to the language community which is not reduced to this forum but to the whole social environment we
communicate with.
And you can´t escape that, if you do you´re about to become autistic at best.

sorry for the somewhat dry outlinings, just a few cents from a philologist  :happy:


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Posted 11 August 2006 - 05:35 AM

The fixed-width font is really the whole point of the code box. It makes the various levels of indentation in your code line up properly.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 06:25 AM

View Postthe Battle Cat, on August 10th 2006, 11:08 AM, said:

after I'm gone.

Ooh, methinks someone failed to read the fine print in his contract.  Heh.  Heh.  Heh.

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