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#1 Hansi

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:16 AM

Nice:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

Wonder how MacBook Pro runs Oblivion

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:20 AM

Well, there you go:

"Macs Do Windows, Too
Today Apple introduced Boot Camp, public beta software that enables Intel-based Macs to run Windows XP. Available now as a download, Boot Camp will be a feature in “Leopard,” Apple’s next major release of Mac OS X, available for preview at Apple’s upcoming Worldwide Developer Conference in August. [Apr 05, 2006]"

http://www.apple.com...05bootcamp.html

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:21 AM

Damnit, I got ninja'd. :(
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:37 AM

There's a story about it here as well:

http://www.macworld....tcamp/index.php

Somebody grab this thing and check out gaming performance with a title that we can easily benchmark and compare against (as in Halo, or Doom 3), will ya?  :lol:
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:47 AM

<neo>Whoa.</neo>

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:48 AM

I'm on it. Might take a day or two though, we're going to print right now, dangit.
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:56 AM

Could this mean another nail in the native mac game coffin?

In one way Apple could really increase the marketshare but if half of them will run WinXP on the Macs then it won't help the Mac game market.

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:58 AM

Holy freak! I've now read confirmed reports that not only are the internal speakers working in the iMacs, so is the X1600 adrd! Woot!!!!! Rome Total war here comes papa!!!!!

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:13 AM

Wow. And ouch for the Mac game porters. There goes Blake Buck's 1% figure. With an official Apple-endorsed solution, why would your average user *not* boot into Windows to play the latest games (or dirt cheap older ones)?

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:18 AM

Yay! Finally we can play Halfli... oops, sorry, my bad - finally we can play "the game that shouldn't be mentioned"

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:35 AM

View PostTesseract, on April 5th 2006, 04:13 PM, said:

Wow. And ouch for the Mac game porters. There goes Blake Buck's 1% figure. With an official Apple-endorsed solution, why would your average user *not* boot into Windows to play the latest games (or dirt cheap older ones)?

I only hope this only affects games. Windows as a games console? OK. But I don't want that crappy OS for anything else!  :(
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:39 AM

View PostTesseract, on April 5th 2006, 08:13 AM, said:

Wow. And ouch for the Mac game porters. There goes Blake Buck's 1% figure. With an official Apple-endorsed solution, why would your average user *not* boot into Windows to play the latest games (or dirt cheap older ones)?

- Because you need to pay for Windows
- Because you need to restart you computer and boot in Windows (if you are running any type of server you won't do this)
- Because it is a pain to reboot in another environment just for a game.

I prefer to launch my game in my Mac environment. But it might just be me. And then there are games that never get ported...

I have to say that it might put a huge stress on porting speed. I guess that if a game takes too long to be ported, many users will already have completed the game on their windows partition and won't buy the Mac version.

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:40 AM

Mac gaming just died.

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:45 AM

View PostHansi, on April 5th 2006, 03:16 PM, said:

Nice:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

Wonder how MacBook Pro runs Oblivion

With the rumors around Leopard I had expected that move , though not at this point yet.
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:52 AM

View PostiRolley, on April 6th 2006, 12:39 AM, said:

- Because you need to pay for Windows
Maybe you ought to, but you don't need to.

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- Because it is a pain to reboot in another environment just for a game.
But if that is the only way you can play said game, e.g. before the port is done...

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:52 AM

What most people here fails to realize is that we are the minority here. Dual booting isn't anything most people would consider doing just to play games. I know myself, after dual booting to OS 9 for Deus Ex... Classic performance wasn't good enough for me, and booting to OS 9 was too much work, so I quit playing the game. And if not even Deus Ex can keep me dual booting, what will? And I'm still a pretty advanced user. Seeing how among the best selling games on the Mac are games the Sims, Rollercoaster Tycoon 3, Myst, Enigmo, Bejeweled, EV, Zuma and the like... does that really speak of a market that's willing to dual boot for just a few games?

While there will be a loss of a few sales from this, there's still a market for Mac gaming. The casual gamer will never accept to boot to a different OS just for a game. Period.

And since this move will probably give us more Mac users in general, there can be even more that will feel that dual booting is a menace and get the Mac version of the games that are available.

If this will lead to the death of Mac gaming in any way, it would be that PC developers will realize the growing market share of Macs and develop a freely downloadable Mac app of their game, just like some do for Linux already. This is probably a much larger threat for the porting companies than a few switching "hardcore" gamers. I see more a poosibility to win back some of those who previously switched to Windows machines just for games instead... and if the Intel Mac version of a game runs just as fast as the Windows version, some will get that to avoid dual booting for that title.
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 09:08 AM

The most interesting part of this announcement to me is that you can do in-place resizing of partitions now.

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 09:16 AM

View PostTesseract, on April 5th 2006, 08:08 AM, said:

The most interesting part of this announcement to me is that you can do in-place resizing of partitions now.

This functionality has been around for a while now.

iPartition
http://www.coriolis-.../iPartition.php

Good piece of software, used it several months ago to repartition my drive. Didn't lose any data, was pretty sweet.

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 09:19 AM

This was good news!

I know a few people who wouldn't have anything against buying a Mac, if they could only use some of their Windows apps that don't exist for the Mac. With a Apple-supported solution (graphics drivers, no overheating due to fans not working), I can now recommend them to buy a Mac.

And personally I just became even more interested to get rid of my aging Ibook G3/800 and buy a Intel-Ibook / Macbook / Macbook Pro.

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 09:31 AM

View Postzander106, on April 6th 2006, 01:16 AM, said:

This functionality has been around for a while now.

iPartition
http://www.coriolis-.../iPartition.php

Good piece of software, used it several months ago to repartition my drive. Didn't lose any data, was pretty sweet.
Yeah, but now it's bundled with the OS for free. GNU parted has also been able to do it for quite a while.