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#1 KirinRiotCrash

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 09:04 PM

Now this is a little weird thought that hit me but when I was listening to some of the podcasts for the first time through iTunes, it occured to me that some people use the word "dot" instead of "point" when referring to version numbers. So this got me thinking "Dot or Point? What do people say?" Last time I watched a keynote, Steve Jobs sometimes uses dot, other times, it's point.

BTW, I tried to start a poll on these forums but I got an error so it'll be a regular thread. Anyway, do you guys prefer to say "iTunes 4-point-9" or "iTunes 4-dot-9"?

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 09:07 PM

Definitely point; dot doesn't sound right.
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 12:23 AM

I switch between the two. If there is only one I tend to say point. If there are more than one I say dot.

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 05:48 AM

Point.  And I also say OS "X", not OS "Ten".

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 06:43 AM

6.2.1 --> "Six maru two no one"

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 07:39 AM

IMHO you can use either word. I see no dot in getting worked up over it.
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:15 AM

All I know, is if someone was trying to describe what version of something they use, and said "dot", I would give them a confused look and then a look of "what are you, some sort of idiot?" At which point I would regard them as not having a clue about computers, and they are beyond help on the subject at hand.

The use of "dot" came around in regards to a "name". As in domain names, the whole dot com frenzy. Never would anyone be caught dead saying "a Point Com company".

Strangely, the IP address, uses neither, as when people ramble off an IP address verbally, they skip saying dot OR point, but rather add a pause. Well most people. The learned people I talk too who actually know what an IP address IS at least.

I have adopted the use of pause when speaking a version. Saying "point" just takes up too much effort since version numbers themselves are almost meaningless, as a new version will be out tomorrow, which fixes a prior bug, and introduces a new one. However I wouldn't be caught dead if I said ~dot~ in a version.

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:16 AM

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:59 AM

KirinRiotCrash, on July 1st 2005, 07:04 PM, said:

BTW, I tried to start a poll on these forums but I got an error so it'll be a regular thread. Anyway, do you guys prefer to say "iTunes 4-point-9" or "iTunes 4-dot-9"?

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 10:04 AM

Frigidman, on July 2nd 2005, 07:15 AM, said:

The use of "dot" came around in regards to a "name". As in domain names, the whole dot com frenzy. Never would anyone be caught dead saying "a Point Com company"

Dot has been used to verbalize periods for a lot longer than that.

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 11:38 AM

Tomatocow, on July 2nd 2005, 04:43 AM, said:

6.2.1 --> "Six maru two no one"

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Wait..what is six in Japanese ?

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 02:50 PM

bobbob, on July 2nd 2005, 10:04 AM, said:

Dot has been used to verbalize periods for a lot longer than that.

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Got some examples, hmm?

"You will eat your vegatables, dot!" *chuckle*

"Stippling is the act of putting many periods together to form an image." *lmao*

"Do you see this point/dot/period on the map?"... guess any of those work, a reference to a symbol... anything goes.

This topic has no point, period.  :D

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 04:12 PM

They are called point releases, no?

I vote for point.

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 07:39 PM

sillek, on July 3rd 2005, 02:38 AM, said:

Wait..what is six in Japanese ?

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Roku.

6.2.1 = Roku ten Ni ten Ichi.

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Posted 03 July 2005 - 01:26 PM

"Point" for version numbers. "Dot" web address. "Period" for the spot at the end of a sentence.

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Posted 03 July 2005 - 03:57 PM

Bernie, on July 3rd 2005, 07:26 PM, said:

"Point" for version numbers. "Dot" web address. "Period" for the spot at the end of a sentence.

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Nah, that's "full stop" for English speakers :-D

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Posted 03 July 2005 - 04:22 PM

I'm amazed this hasn't turned into a discussion of the proper pronunciation of GIF yet.

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Posted 03 July 2005 - 04:25 PM

No One, on July 3rd 2005, 10:22 PM, said:

I'm amazed this hasn't turned into a discussion of the proper pronunciation of GIF yet.

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pron. "jiff" ;-)

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Posted 03 July 2005 - 05:52 PM

"hiff".

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Posted 04 July 2005 - 06:30 AM

No One, on July 3rd 2005, 06:22 PM, said:

I'm amazed this hasn't turned into a discussion of the proper pronunciation of GIF yet.

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The creators of the format intended it to be pronounced like JIF. However, the GIFT without the T variant it so popular that I think that it doesn't much matter to well-adjusted people. :) Just don't go around pronouncing it like BANANA and you'll be OK.

For me, it sucks living in a vacuum. It would be wonderful if I could go to conventions and such to mingle with people and hear the way things are pronounced. It went completely over my head the first time someone pronounced SQL as SEQUEL. In the end, I'm happy because I know the right way to pronounce VANGELIS.

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