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#21 Hippieman

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 06:14 PM

Bernie, on June 12th 2005, 05:41 AM, said:

For those of you that don't know, our trusty moderator, the Battle Cat, is away for a week. He is a big fan of Marathon and I don't want to leave him out, but this is too juicy not to mention. Bungie wants to do Marathon IV... but Mac only. Microsoft doesn't like it and is considering dissolving Bungie. I don't think it would be wise to publicly reveal the source at this point; but, if you PM me, I might be able to reveal some clues.  ;)

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I call bullpoop plain and simple.  Of course Fridge's post is interesting I just really doubt this.  To quote bungie from 1996:

"Imagine a painting of a horse, a marvellous white stallion. This stallion happens to be lying in a crumpled heap on the ground, dead. And Bungie employees are standing around it in a semicircle, beating the horse with various blunt objects. The painting is titled "Marathon 4."

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 12:38 AM

I'd rather see Myth IV..

I played Marathon for about..three seconds before it made me completely motion sick and nauseous.

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 03:28 AM

Mac only Marathon IV: On one hand, it doesn't seem realistic. On the other hand, Apple just announced the transition to Intel. How many people remember this quote:

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For Power Mac Users: If you need more speed, you'd better call the Apple Dealer where you bought your computer, 'cuz he probably sold you a Centris in a Power Mac case..."

The first Marathon made many 68K Mac users want to buy a Power Mac. When I was finally able to get a Power Mac year(s) later, the first thing I did was play Marathon again. Maybe Marathon IV's existence is/will be to get people to want to buy Intel Macs. Maybe it will come bundled with Intel Macs. Maybe that will be the only way you can get it. Who knows, it could even be free. (Maybe it will be Intel Mac only.)

Maybe the rumors of Apple sponsoring this project are true. Yeah, I know how Apple is about secrecy. However, if Bungie has total control, I can see these "leaks" happening.

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 08:35 AM

Bernie, on June 14th 2005, 04:28 AM, said:

Mac only Marathon IV: On one hand, it doesn't seem realistic. On the other hand, Apple just announced the transition to Intel. How many people remember this quote:
The first Marathon made many 68K Mac users want to buy a Power Mac. When I was finally able to get a Power Mac year(s) later, the first thing I did was play Marathon again. Maybe Marathon IV's existence is/will be to get people to want to buy Intel Macs. Maybe it will come bundled with Intel Macs. Maybe that will be the only way you can get it. Who knows, it could even be free. (Maybe it will be Intel Mac only.)

Maybe the rumors of Apple sponsoring this project are true. Yeah, I know how Apple is about secrecy. However, if Bungie has total control, I can see these "leaks" happening.

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That's just plain stupid.  It'd be nice to believe, but it makes no business sense.  Also, some random dude on the IMG forums is the last place something like this would show up.  The first place would probably be the Marathon story page.  Apple just does not go after the "game" market, not with their music and iPod and digital video stuff.
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Posted 14 June 2005 - 11:41 AM

I cannot comment on this thread at this time.  However, because I love you guys like comrades in arms and it appears that Hippieman is doing a decent job of plugging up the leak, all I can say at this time is: Not "Marathon 4" but rather... Marathon Pfhor.
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Posted 14 June 2005 - 12:32 PM

Marathon Pfhor, excellent:) though PC and Xbox users would say fwoar instead of the whole can opening pff sound...

Hippieman has a point, sadly:( thered probably something akin to the Cortana letters which the got before Halo was announced. And apple has never courted the gaming market, while the rumours of RMA built in for film distribution are much more plausible and would suck up funds.

I also think that Bungies next project will be ressurecting Phoenix (ah-ha!!!), which looked pretty cool from the concept art I found somewhere.

I got a bit sick of the controls in marathon to tell the truth, im too used to mouse and board movement that the distortion from looking up and down got to me. I managed about 10 levels I think...
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Posted 14 June 2005 - 02:07 PM

the Battle Cat, on June 14th 2005, 12:41 PM, said:

I cannot comment on this thread at this time.  However, because I love you guys like comrades in arms and it appears that Hippieman is doing a decent job of plugging up the leak, all I can say at this time is: Not "Marathon 4" but rather... Marathon Pfhor.

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What leak?  Nothing was leaked... EVER!  Clearly it was just swamp gas from Venus.
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Posted 14 June 2005 - 02:25 PM

the Battle Cat, on June 14th 2005, 10:41 AM, said:

I cannot comment on this thread at this time.  However, because I love you guys like comrades in arms and it appears that Hippieman is doing a decent job of plugging up the leak, all I can say at this time is: Not "Marathon 4" but rather... Marathon Pfhor.

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HI,
I held back until now... since MIV rumors seem to pop up like Jack in a Box, mostly
spread by the TBC himself.

So, if there is another possible Marathon title worth the name and itīs true,

I will follow him into the fire.
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Posted 14 June 2005 - 03:42 PM

I'm getting asked certain questions too much. So, here are the official answers:
  • I don't work for Bungie.
  • I don't work for Microsoft.
  • I don't work for Apple.
  • I don't work for Tuncer.
  • I don't work for Pink Floyd.
Also, yes, I do sometimes say "you humans" when referring to... well... you humans. It does NOT automatically mean that I am not human. Geese, I thought that it had been a while since I did that. Is someone dragging up my past or am I just getting old?

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 03:43 PM

I do not want M$ attached to anything Marathon.

No way. They will:
1) make the game PC and xbox only
2) screw everything up
3) still make a profit
4) destroy the Marathon legacy for us.

But it wont happen anyway.

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 04:14 PM

Since im too lazy to PM any (This fast reply is nice!) - What exactly ARE the rumors? O_o

Everybody seems to know everything... *Blehb*
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Posted 14 June 2005 - 04:16 PM

WSTE_M, on June 14th 2005, 10:43 PM, said:

I do not want M$ attached to anything Marathon.

No way. They will:
1) make the game PC and xbox only
2) screw everything up
3) still make a profit
4) destroy the Marathon legacy for us.

But it wont happen anyway.

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5) Stick a MS sticker on it
6) "Where the pfhor do you wanna go today?"
7) Monkey boy as end-level boss. O_o
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Posted 14 June 2005 - 06:19 PM

Thain Esh Kelch, on June 14th 2005, 11:14 PM, said:

Since im too lazy to PM any (This fast reply is nice!) - What exactly ARE the rumors? O_o

Everybody seems to know everything... *Blehb*

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1. Bungie are working on Marathon4
2. they want it too be mac only

thats it. But were talking about the microsoft effect, ie they wont allow it, and i mentioned that theyll probably return to a previously halted project, codenamed Phoenix, cos a lot of predev work will already have been done on that, like the basic storyline etc. etc. Dont expect too much until there is a real leak, or a mysterious mystery message somewhere.
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Posted 14 June 2005 - 08:11 PM

teflon, on June 14th 2005, 05:19 PM, said:

1. Bungie are working on Marathon4
2. they want it too be mac only

Pretty close to the tru7h, they actually want it to be pippin only.  Or should I say, Pippin 360 only (*hinthint*).

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 02:32 AM

Bernie, on June 14th 2005, 02:42 PM, said:

I'm getting asked certain questions too much. So, here are the official answers:
  • I don't work for Bungie.

  • I don't work for Microsoft.

  • I don't work for Apple.

  • I don't work for Tuncer.

  • I don't work for Pink Floyd.
Also, yes, I do sometimes say "you humans" when referring to... well... you humans. It does NOT automatically mean that I am not human. Geese, I thought that it had been a while since I did that. Is someone dragging up my past or am I just getting old?

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You work for me.  Also Marathon IV is going to be about...
Battle Cat, whats it going to be about?
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 04:38 AM

Apple would never succumb to using the same lame type of marketing that microsoft use. I mean, comeon, 360 just means its comeback on itself and nothings changed, good graphics, 2 or 3 half decent launch titles, and a bought out developer delivering a pretty fine FPS... see? no, the pippin2 will be much better, and probably be relabled iGame, iPlay, or iToy before launch in 2157.
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 07:05 AM

teflon, on June 15th 2005, 01:19 AM, said:

1. Bungie are working on Marathon4
2. they want it too be mac only

thats it. But were talking about the microsoft effect, ie they wont allow it, and i mentioned that theyll probably return to a previously halted project, codenamed Phoenix, cos a lot of predev work will already have been done on that, like the basic storyline etc. etc. Dont expect too much until there is a real leak, or a mysterious mystery message somewhere.

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Uhmmm... And if I got this right, everybody knows something about it in here? O_o


But, then what IS Phoenix? I cant remember anything about it since I stopped being a Bungie-fanboy a while after they got really MSicated, and phoenix.bungie.org doesnt really bring anything except a really cool logo.
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:02 AM

Space_Pirate_Killer, on June 15th 2005, 12:32 AM, said:

You work for me.  Also Marathon IV is going to be about...
Battle Cat, whats it going to be about?
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:44 AM

teflon, on June 15th 2005, 04:38 AM, said:

Apple would never succumb to using the same lame type of marketing that microsoft use. I mean, comeon, 360 just means its comeback on itself and nothings changed, good graphics, 2 or 3 half decent launch titles, and a bought out developer delivering a pretty fine FPS... see? no, the pippin2 will be much better, and probably be relabled iGame, iPlay, or iToy before launch in 2157.

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By your logic, when people say "he made a 360 degree change", that means nothing has changed? The 360 in the name doesn't mean "comeback", it is more akin to turnaround/progress.

I like the name, they had to use "3" in the name for all the soccer moms, comparing Xbox 2 to the PS3, they would think 3 is better then 2. Simple as that. Not really sure how that is lame, seems to me more like intelligent marketing.

Or were you being sarcastic for the WHOLE post and not just the last part. :)

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 09:22 AM

yeah, but a 360 degree turn ends you up facing exactly the same direction. they want it to mean a revolution, but 360 just means full circle, revolution means, amongst other things, replacing something old with something new. xbox360 is just adding. anyway, the ps3 is looking to be more powerful, but just as difficult to dev for properly as the ps2. expect another late bloomer... 360 just sounds stupid to me. i prefered xenon, even xboxnext was good enough... clever marketing but still stupid.
i was being totally sincere for the entirety. I personally hope they got for iToy. lawsuits amongo, yay!!

http://phoenix.bungie.org/ for what there is of phoenix info. ie, there is none... All anyone knows is the codename, and that it was MIA to focus on Halo for xbox.
also http://www.insidemac...?ArticleID=5071
and a general search for bungie and phoenix on google is always good.
Given the name though, it could be anything from a completely new franchise to the resurrection of an old title (Marathon4? Myth4?).

Add: http://forums.bungie...ory/?read=36939 rampant speculation based on artwork by mullins.
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