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#1 Ranger_Joe

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 06:42 AM

New G5s are out!

#2 Mr.Rogue

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 07:02 AM

Quote from Mr.Jobs: "We promise you 3Ghz by next summer"

Hmmmm, I think not, unless they plan on surprising us in September with a Rev3 G5.  Still, 2.5Ghz isn't to shabby and the 9800XT is quite nice :)

Maybe time for me to upgrade now.

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 07:18 AM

I like the Radeon XT varients of the cards and the 8x Superdrive.  I wonder if my G4 will sell for more now that it's upgraded like crazy . . . .


edit:  Did anyone notice that the 2.5 Ghz G5 has an integrated liquid-cooling system?  Man, this must be overclocked!
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Posted 09 June 2004 - 08:15 AM

I'll be curious to see what the standard non-Apple
retailers will include as a video card (Nvidia 5200
or ATI 9600 XT).

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 08:24 AM

Non-Apple retail stores carry the same products as Apple sells.  They can custom order the same things you can build on Apple's website, but stock units are identical to the stuff in the Apple retail stores.

That said, anyone want to buy a Dual 2.0 that's in good condition?   :-D
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Posted 09 June 2004 - 08:36 AM

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That said, anyone want to buy a Dual 2.0 that's in good condition?   :-D

Hey, I'd take it, depending on the price.  Of course, you were probably joking, right?
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Posted 09 June 2004 - 09:21 AM

Darnit !you beat me, really just one new processor at 2.5thats 25% after 10 months, he still has until Sept for a 3GHZ though. Imacs next matbe 1.5G4 1.6 G5 and 1.8 G5.
I really wanted all powermacs to finally be above 2GHZ.
Still something is better than nothing, Xmas I buy.
Oh no Does the Dual 1.8 have the older 1.6 mother PCI board, I hope not.
still only 2 Hard drives and one Optical Drive, nice price cut on the 2 GHZ
No PCI EXPRESS
Is the 2.5GHZ a overclocked 2GHZ made faster by watercooling Hmmm.
Get rid of the nvdia card already, all models should haave 128MB cards with the 3000 dollar one getting the 9800 standard
Hard drives sizes are very weak for $2000-$3000 workstations, make 160 on the lowend and 200 then 250.
I can only imagine how weak the imacs will be now.
the powerbooks did video cards right.
I sure hope Ati has the X series available for these soon, real soon, really really real soon!!!.
Is the 2.5 a 970-970fx or 975 processor?

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 09:30 AM

New dual 1.8 does indeed use the lowend motherboard.
Dual 2.5 GHz G5-RADEON X800 -4 GB RAM-Revo 7.1
MBP 2.0GHz -Mobility RADEON X1600-2 GB RAM

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 09:30 AM

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Oh no Does the Dual 1.8 have the older 1.6 mother board, I hope not.

Yes, it seems to have the 1.6-version of the motherboard. I wish they would have included a lower priced single processor model, especially since they are discontinuing the powermac g4. I guess this just leads to a new iMac G5 model to fill in the $1000 to $1998 price range.

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 10:13 AM

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he still has until Sept for a 3GHZ though.
Is September "soon" to you?

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Is the 2.5GHZ a overclocked 2GHZ made faster by watercooling Hmmm.

No. Technically, the CPU is "liquid cooled," however, this is definitely not watercooling. It's a heat pipe. The dual 1.42GHz G4 used something similar. Why Apple is hyping this now is a mystery to me.

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Is the 2.5 a 970-970fx or 975 processor?
It is a 90nm chip, ergo, the 970fx, just like the one used in the new xServe.

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I guess this just leads to a new iMac G5 model to fill in the $1000 to $1998 price range.

Guess again.

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 10:20 AM

This upgrade is very disappointing. I'll stick with my current Mac and upgrade my PC for now. I'm waiting for 3GHz G5's before I upgrade -- let's hope that they're not outfitted as poorly as this current crop of G5's is. 160GB/512/9600XT in a $3,000 machine? Who is Apple trying to kid?

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 11:06 AM

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New dual 1.8 does indeed use the lowend motherboard.

How do you figure?  They all use DDR400 RAM--the last ones had PC2700 & PC3200 SDRAM, which is the way I used to tell which one had the old motherboard.
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Posted 09 June 2004 - 11:16 AM

The 1.8 can only hold 4GB.

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 11:24 AM

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The 1.8 can only hold 4GB.
  And has standard PCI slots, not PCI-X.
Dual 2.5 GHz G5-RADEON X800 -4 GB RAM-Revo 7.1
MBP 2.0GHz -Mobility RADEON X1600-2 GB RAM

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 12:03 PM

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Non-Apple retail stores carry the same products as Apple sells.  They can custom order the same things you can build on Apple's website, but stock units are identical to the stuff in the Apple retail stores.

That said, anyone want to buy a Dual 2.0 that's in good condition?   :-D

Actually I meant online stores like Club-Mac which
as I see only has a Nvidia 5200 card option for the
new 1.8 and 2 Ghz dualies with no upgrade options.  
They do offer the 2.5 model with the 9600 XT card though.

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 12:11 PM

Apple can take these G5 upgrades and shove them.

Thank you Apple so much for giving your expensive pro towers such a wonderfully powerful video card as the NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra. It's a truly state of the art video card for your highly-touted G5 towers, the flagship machine of your company. Now I can finally play Chess and Solitaire with all the settings maxed out, because as you know, those are the only games that Mac users play.

I am particularly grateful for the very generous amount of RAM that ships with the dual 1.8 GHz tower. 256 MB of RAM is more than enough to run the latest games and applications. I doubt if OS X will create more than one VM swapfile.

Given these super powerful video card and RAM upgrades, I understand the price increases. They're clearly justified.

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 12:35 PM

Price increase?  Aren't they at the same price points as the previous model?
Dual 2.5 GHz G5-RADEON X800 -4 GB RAM-Revo 7.1
MBP 2.0GHz -Mobility RADEON X1600-2 GB RAM

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 12:37 PM

Hang on the 1.8 does not use the 1.6 mboard at
all. its a faster frontside bus 1st off and will take
8gig of ram thankyou.

new iMacs must be G5's now a big gap in pricing
from the eMac 1.25ghz to the low end G5...

The 1.6 G5 is gone.. the 1.8 G5single gone....

The iMac is no longer a good buy...

lets face new models of late are:

ibooks,powerbooks,eMacs, G5

only the iMac to go!

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Mac Pro powered...

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 12:49 PM

The small price increase would be due to the dual processors.  Video card & RAM stayed the same.  And it should be noted that the primary target for these machines is NOT a gamer.  Granted, gamers want a powerful system, but it isn't that tough to upgrade the video card when you order.  These machines are targeted at Photoshop, Illustrator, Final Cut Pro users, who don't need powerful graphics cards.  As long as it can handle Quartz Extreme, its good.  So chill.
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Posted 09 June 2004 - 01:07 PM

Hate me, I just ordered a dually 2.5 GHz G5, all stock except the larger HD.

I said "SCREW THE 9800 XT" because of its homo-PCI card nullification.  I need all the PCI slots I can get.

Mango, quit bitching. You're probably like all the other zealots teary eyed because "STEVE PROMISED ME A 3 GHZ G5!" and shaking your fist in rage. You feel betrayed, sad, frustrated all because a computer didn't go 500 MHz faster?  Grow up.

Everyone consider this: Right now the fastest AMD 64s are only 2.4 GHz, putting Apple ahead of both AMD and Intel for 64 Bit CPU boxes, than and Athlon 64s aren't dualled yet (Not to my knowledge at least).

As stated tiskippy, these are "Pro" machines. I'll be using mine for complex audio work and multimedia projects. The fact it plays games just happens to be an added bonus.
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