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Posted 14 April 2016 - 10:10 AM

So it seems yesterday something very odd began happening with Steam for pretty much anyone who had more than a basic game installed. Steam decided that generally all games needed an 'update'. An update for 'what'? Steam doesn't say, Valve has had no comment on the subject either.

Millions of users, thousands of games; doing the math with almost every game needing a 100-200mb update... well, the numbers are staggering.

Valve failure? You betcha.

And the worst part of it all, Valve didn't even have the decency to post a little news or notice about what is going on. This has caused much anger and panic, as people are screaming from every edge of the spectrum and guessing on what has happened, from "Steam Got Hacked", to "Its Your Machine, Not Mine".

Just a sampling of one of the many topics raised:

http://steamcommunit...42585856252124/

Way to go Valve!

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 02:27 PM

To quote Duke Nukem, "HOLY COW!"
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Posted 14 April 2016 - 05:26 PM

Somebody please post here when the situation is resolved.  I'm afraid to start up Steam because that download process might not be reversible until the entire library is downloaded.
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Posted 14 April 2016 - 05:54 PM

Kind of like that time I tried to install drox operative with the MGS app

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 05:56 PM

Whatever it is, it's not affecting me at all or is already resolved. Didn't see this topic till now, but both my Tiki and MBP when signing into Steam as of about 45 minutes ago when I got home had 4 updates and 2 updates respectively for various games + SteamVR.
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Posted 14 April 2016 - 06:17 PM

Yeah, it hit a large number of people, for a large number of games. I killed steam last night after I saw the mess, and figured I reboot it when the dust settles. But it seems all those games got 'corrupted' last night, so I STILL have to go through and apply all those useless updates to fix them all.

And by corrupted I mean, steam is stuck in this 'you have to update them before you can play' bs mode.

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 11:49 PM

View PostFrigidman™, on 14 April 2016 - 10:10 AM, said:

So it seems yesterday something very odd began happening with Steam for pretty much anyone who had more than a basic game installed. Steam decided that generally all games needed an 'update'. An update for 'what'? Steam doesn't say, Valve has had no comment on the subject either.

Millions of users, thousands of games; doing the math with almost every game needing a 100-200mb update... well, the numbers are staggering.
I have 90 installed Steam games and didn't notice anything. Maybe it updated while I was at work (in which case it certainly isn't 100-200 Mb per game since 9-18 GB to download takes a looong time at 5 Mb/s download rate), or didn't update at all, or just a few games.

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 12:11 AM

See? Game Center is not so bad. Game Center does not do terrible things like Steam does.

Bad Steam. Bad!
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Posted 15 April 2016 - 08:32 AM

View PostCamper-Hunter, on 14 April 2016 - 11:49 PM, said:

I have 90 installed Steam games and didn't notice anything. Maybe it updated while I was at work (in which case it certainly isn't 100-200 Mb per game since 9-18 GB to download takes a looong time at 5 Mb/s download rate), or didn't update at all, or just a few games.

Seems it may have affected everyone who used steam during the window of screwup... but then WHO THE frak KNOWS because valve still remains silent on the issue. Idiots.

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 09:15 AM

View PostFrigidman™, on 14 April 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

But it seems all those games got 'corrupted' last night, so I STILL have to go through and apply all those useless updates to fix them all.

And by corrupted I mean, steam is stuck in this 'you have to update them before you can play' bs mode.

This is exactly what I was talking about.  Yeesh.
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Posted 15 April 2016 - 01:28 PM

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 15 April 2016 - 12:11 AM, said:

See? Game Center is not so bad. Game Center does not do terrible things like Steam does.

Bad Steam. Bad!

Can't do anything bad if you don't do anything at all. Oh wait Game Center broke command and conquer. Thanks gamecenterbama
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Posted 15 April 2016 - 01:30 PM

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 15 April 2016 - 12:11 AM, said:

See? Game Center is not so bad. Game Center does not do terrible things like Steam does.

Bad Steam. Bad!

I think you're forgetting this.

No issues here, but I didn't have Steam up for most of the day yesterday.

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 01:36 PM

My Other* machine didn't get a slew of updates, but I launched it today. So clearly whatever valve did wrong, they stopped doing it.

Bet it cost them big on bandwidth though... holy.

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 02:53 PM

Ha!  Too late Steam, I've started on the stand alone Quake 4 and now I'm involved in that again, so go suck an egg.  For awhile anyway.

I'd be curious as to the comment that Steam will finally make when they address this with the Steam users.  Plus I wonder if there will be any lawsuits to cover the cost of somebody on a tiered system that have to pay their IP extra for exceeding their monthly download allotment by reloading their entire library at one time.
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Posted 15 April 2016 - 06:51 PM

View PostCougar, on 15 April 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

I think you're forgetting this.

No issues here, but I didn't have Steam up for most of the day yesterday.

Not sure how that issue would have anything to do with Game Center. It is a legitimate criticism of Apple's Mac App Store though so I guess that's the association you had in mind there. I was just referring to one client that doesn't even involve itself with purchases or updates vs a client that does.

That problem was an issue with the Mac App Store. In any event, not related to our beloved, ever so simple, rarely fixed (hey, two out of three things being good ain't too bad!) Game Center.

Stuff like C&C Generals and Black OPs being broken is probably all Aspyr's fault for using something they were warned would be deprecated years ago so their games get broken left and right. Didn't see that with Feral, did we?  However, as for Feral, those standards defying punks who've gone their own way, I think they are data mining! That's what!

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 07:09 PM

We've all forgotten to renew a certificate. Just when I did it few people got a security warning to a couple internal sites not "broke all the apps". I put in calendar items for renewals after that
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Posted 15 April 2016 - 09:16 PM

View Postthe Battle Cat, on 15 April 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

I'd be curious as to the comment that Steam will finally make when they address this with the Steam users.  Plus I wonder if there will be any lawsuits to cover the cost of somebody on a tiered system that have to pay their IP extra for exceeding their monthly download allotment by reloading their entire library at one time.

I'd rather that lawsuit be against the popsnizzlebird asscrack ISPs that have data caps on home broadband than Valve, TBH.
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Posted 15 April 2016 - 09:22 PM

View PostDirtyHarry50, on 15 April 2016 - 06:51 PM, said:

Not sure how that issue would have anything to do with Game Center. It is a legitimate criticism of Apple's Mac App Store though so I guess that's the association you had in mind there. I was just referring to one client that doesn't even involve itself with purchases or updates vs a client that does.


Well, the MAS plus Game Center = Steam. Apple just splits them into separate apps. Anyway, yes, that issue with the MAS reminded me of this Steam issue. Even if you avoid Steam and go MAS, you will still have to deal with ineptitude.

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 08:15 AM

View PostCougar, on 15 April 2016 - 09:22 PM, said:

Well, the MAS plus Game Center = Steam. Apple just splits them into separate apps. Anyway, yes, that issue with the MAS reminded me of this Steam issue. Even if you avoid Steam and go MAS, you will still have to deal with ineptitude.

Fair enough. It is true that ineptitude is everywhere unfortunately. It took me over a week to get Verizon to recognize they'd duplicated my iPhone SE order and cancel the erroneous second order. Every time I would call (daily) and escalate the call (every day after the first) I would get, "Oh, don't worry it was canceled. I checked!" Then I would check my Verizon page, see the order still there and inform them that no it was not. Finally, after a week when I refused to accept that answer and others about oh, the site is just slow to update I finally got acknowledgment that there was a real problem which was subsequently fixed 24 hours later.

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