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#261 speedcat_feral

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 06:40 AM

A new question for the Feral newsletter!

What is the best thing about belonging to the Mac gaming community?
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 09:26 AM

View Postspeedcat_feral, on 20 July 2018 - 06:40 AM, said:

A new question for the Feral newsletter!

What is the best thing about belonging to the Mac gaming community?
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:28 AM

View Postspeedcat_feral, on 20 July 2018 - 06:40 AM, said:

A new question for the Feral newsletter!

What is the best thing about belonging to the Mac gaming community?

I think it has to be the daily cheddar allowance.
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 01:41 PM

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 02:59 PM

>What is the best thing about belonging to the Mac gaming community?

Our shared past, and shared appreciation for what used to be a unique, innovative, and under-appreciated platform for computer games.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 02:28 AM

View PostThain Esh Kelch, on 20 July 2018 - 09:26 AM, said:

We smell better!

View Postnick68k, on 20 July 2018 - 11:28 AM, said:

I think it has to be the daily cheddar allowance.

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 07:45 AM

View PostMatt Diamond, on 20 July 2018 - 02:59 PM, said:

Our shared past, and shared appreciation for what used to be a unique, innovative, and under-appreciated platform for computer games.

I read this back today and it sounds much harsher than I intended. At the risk of digging my hole even deeper, I will attempt to clarify.

The Mac gaming market used to be very distinct-- the OS was different, the hardware was very different. We had great games that were Mac-only, and of course many games that never made it to our platform. Some multi-platform games were frankly much better on the Mac than elsewhere.

Nowadays the Mac is still a great platform but for games it is almost entirely a subset of the PC market. And the Mac versions are not better than the PC versions. This isn't all bad: the Mac platform itself is so strong that our fear isn't that Microsoft or Dell will kill it, but that Apple will (e.g. by migrating it to iOS.) And we have more Mac games than ever before. But the distinctiveness is gone.

So: the Mac gaming community I know best is made up of fellow old-timers who recognized that there was something special about Mac gaming, spent their precious time and money on it, and shared the ups and downs with me.

If you are reading this in the IMG forums then you are probably in that community. :-)
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 08:22 AM

View PostMatt Diamond, on 23 July 2018 - 07:45 AM, said:

I read this back today and it sounds much harsher than I intended. At the risk of digging my hole even deeper, I will attempt to clarify.

The Mac gaming market used to be very distinct-- the OS was different, the hardware was very different. We had great games that were Mac-only, and of course many games that never made it to our platform. Some multi-platform games were frankly much better on the Mac than elsewhere.

Nowadays the Mac is still a great platform but for games it is almost entirely a subset of the PC market. And the Mac versions are not better than the PC versions. This isn't all bad: the Mac platform itself is so strong that our fear isn't that Microsoft or Dell will kill it, but that Apple will (e.g. by migrating it to iOS.) And we have more Mac games than ever before. But the distinctiveness is gone.

So: the Mac gaming community I know best is made up of fellow old-timers who recognized that there was something special about Mac gaming, spent their precious time and money on it, and shared the ups and downs with me.

If you are reading this in the IMG forums then you are probably in that community. :-)

I think there's a chance the Mac might become that kind of special gaming platform again that you described it used to be.
It will depend on Apple though, on game developers, and us gamers of course.

From my view a core advantage of the Mac as a gaming platform is the limited amount of distinct hardware configurations.
In that regard it kind of sits right in the perfect spot between PC and consoles: The hardware cycle is 1-2 years mostly, so nowhere near as long as with consoles which make a huge hardware jump only every 5-10 years, yet there's nowhere near the sheer endless number of individual hardware configurations that games have to deal with on Windows or even Linux. This in theory would allow game companies to test and optimize their games for every single Mac it can run on, which I think for example Feral does to a certain extent, thus their in more recent years outstanding ports.
Another advantage could be Apples tight control over AMD, they just have to use it in regard to gaming-optimization of drivers.
It's not like they didn't care, both their Metal efforts and their rather frequent mentioning of games in Mac marketing shows.

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 09:56 AM

View PostMatt Diamond, on 23 July 2018 - 07:45 AM, said:



So: the Mac gaming community I know best is made up of fellow old-timers who recognized that there was something special about Mac gaming, spent their precious time and money on it, and shared the ups and downs with me.

If you are reading this in the IMG forums then you are probably in that community. :-)

I very much agree with this. Now of course a lot of this may be nostalgia for a mis-spent youth, but Mac gaming 30-odd (yikes) years ago was special. Uninvited, Shadowgate, Prince  of Persia, Spaceship Warlock, Shufflepuck Cafe, Dark Castle, Spaceward Ho, Monkey Island...great memories. Even when the AAA gruel was particularly thin from the mid 90's I stuck with the platform, because there were still indy developers pushing out great games.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:06 AM

View PostMatt Diamond, on 23 July 2018 - 07:45 AM, said:


So: the Mac gaming community I know best is made up of fellow old-timers who recognized that there was something special about Mac gaming, spent their precious time and money on it, and shared the ups and downs with me.


I'd like to meet this community, can you direct me to their location.
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Posted 24 July 2018 - 11:14 AM

View Postmacdude22, on 23 July 2018 - 10:06 AM, said:

I'd like to meet this community, can you direct me to their location.

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