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#41 Stickboy



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Posted 11 April 2004 - 06:33 PM


OK I really don’t have the time to devote to one of these tit-for-tat debates. You’re probably right about “Tho Shalt Not Kill” though a knowledge of Hebrew doesn't help much with ancient dialects. The born-again I got that from has had some questionable ideas in the past and it wouldn’t surprise me if he was wrong.
Look, it's all in good humour, i'm not out to be offensive or annoy. FYI, Hebrew is a really basic language; the syntax, grammar and lexical structures have remained pretty similar over the last 3000 years or so (mainly 'cos it wasn't being used for the longest time, falling by the wayside to Babylonian Aramaic, Greek and Latin. Current usage started by a guy named Yehuda in the late 19th/early 20th Century, I think. Correct me if i'm wrong). As a consequence, anyone with a basic grasp of either modern or ancient Hebrew can pick and run with the other. Incidently, my ancient Hebrew is stronger than my modern.


I do find it ironic that at the end there you bemoan stereotyping after spending two paragraphs stereotyping the US government. I don’t believe that Bush has indirectly killed more Muslims, could you please post some numbers? As for the US Government being run by a bunch of Fundy Christians, what have you been smoking? Also I highly doubt that Muslims clerics are as enlightened on Gay Marriage and abortion as you seem to think and I suspect burning the flag of a Muslim country in that country such as Saudi Arabia would be dealt with harshly.  BTW it was Fundy Muslims who killed 3000 people on 9/11, I think that was a record setter.

What have I been smoking? Camel Lights and cannabis. I love the stuff. Reagan was and is a fundamentalist Christian, so's George W. Bush. They've never denied it. Dubya has been quoted as saying something along the lines of Evolution being "Just a theory", only an option. Still don't believe me? See for yourself here. Tony Blair, who is also Christian (though not as hard-core) has even been asked on live Telly if they've prayed together! (He scoffed at the remark.) And about the gay marriage, flag burning and abortion comments, all I was saying was that both sides are as bad as each other on these issues. Being chucked in a US jail for a year for burning a piece of coloured cloth is hardly enlighted, nor advocates "Freedom." Incidently, 9/11 was just the most amount of people killed in one go. Us Europeans have had to deal with terrorists for decades, perhaps centuries. I'd hate to think how many Israelis and Palestinians have been killed over the years, or Muslims in the former Yugoslavia. But that's by the by, I don't want to offend. So, just how many Iraqi civillians were killed by invading forces, under Supreme Commander George W. Bush's control? Close to 10,000! Don't believe me? Check it out here.


One more thing the whole “If only the US wouldn’t back Israel” argument is a load of bull. Fundamentalist Islam’s ultimate enemy is Western Culture. They have to destroy it, it’s very existence undermines all they believe. We allow “our” women in public uncovered and unescorted, we allow homosexuals to live. Heck we allow people to publicly ridicule and question the very existence of God.

If that's your opinion, fine. You may have a point here, Fundamantalism of any sort is extremely exclusivist by its nature. But do some reading of Islamic texts -the Quran and the Hadiths - and some talking with religious Muslims. Take the notion of preservation of culture into account. And please don't convince too many people that all Islamic Fundamentalists are out to get you, that just breeds fear, and we've dealt with that one before.
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