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#41 jeannot

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 02:43 PM

Thanks for the warning, aspyr. :glare:

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 03:16 PM

RIP The Pre-Sequel
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Posted 17 June 2019 - 03:31 PM

Oh well, that comes as a surprise.
And there I was, expecting The Pre-Sequel for Mac to get the remaster-treatmend as well... So that means "no" I guess.

Also a shame about BioShock infinite :o
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Posted 17 June 2019 - 03:34 PM

View PostMrUNIMOG, on 17 June 2019 - 03:31 PM, said:

Also a shame about BioShock infinite :o

Thanks for noticing! They must have added that to the list a few minutes ago.
Time to buy that before it's gone.

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 03:38 PM

What bugs me the most is, one day when Valve decides not to support Mojave any longer with the Steam client, all those games will be lost forever.
At least the ones that are not available DRM-free somewhere else.

I hope at least for games purchased in the MAS that won't happen some day, since they don't require the App Store to launch. Unfortunately most of my games I have purchased on Steam.
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Posted 17 June 2019 - 03:49 PM

View PostMr Pink, on 17 June 2019 - 01:42 PM, said:

Aspyr announced today, they will remove the following games from sale after today 17/06/2019:
Thanks a lot for the warning! Greatly appreciate it!
  • Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel - Own it already.
  • Call of Duty - Couldn't find this one on either MGS or Mac App Store? It was on Steam, but Windows only? I think I played it back in the days though... It was a good game!
  • Call of Duty 2 - Own it already.
  • Call of Duty 4 - Own it already.
  • Call of Duty Black Ops - I think I would like it, but the trailer looked like a Michal Bay movie, and it was 20$ for such an old game, so my backlog said I should skip it. (Might regret it though)
  • Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 - Same as above. (But 10$)
  • Civilization IV - Own it already. But man, am I said I won't be able to play this forever and ever on a modern machine.. :(
  • Civilization IV: Colonization - Own it already.
  • Doom 3 - Own it already.
  • Duke Nukem Forever - Own it already.
  • Fahrenheit - No interest.
  • Homeworld Remastered Collection - Bought it! I've only played Homeworld 2, but it was amazing, so I really wanted this one! :)
  • Prey - Own it already.
  • Quake 4 - Own it already.
  • RAGE - Own it already.
  • Star Wars: Empire at War - No idea if this is good or not, so I'll skip it in the name of my backlog!
  • Star Wars: Jedi Academy - Own it already.
  • Star Wars: Jedi Outcast - Own it already.
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed - This looked pretty good, so I picked it up!
  • Sims 2: Life Stories - No interest.
  • Sims 2: Pet Stories - No interest.
  • Sims 2: Castaway Stories - No interest.
  • Tomb Raider 2 - I would like it, but with my backlog it would be so low in priority that we will be at 128 bit before I ever get around to play it.. :P

View PostMr Pink, on 17 June 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

Thanks for noticing! They must have added that to the list a few minutes ago.
Time to buy that before it's gone.

Eeeek, yes! Bought it too!

View PostMrUNIMOG, on 17 June 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

What bugs me the most is, one day when Valve decides not to support Mojave any longer with the Steam client, all those games will be lost forever.

Can't we just play them in offline mode, as long as we download them in time? Annoying yes, but still doable since space is cheap these days, and old games don't take up too much of it.
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Posted 17 June 2019 - 03:59 PM

I find it pretty shoddy, to just share that information in an article buried somewhere on their support web site, giving us less than 24h to get those 32-bit games.

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 05:21 PM

View PostThain Esh Kelch, on 17 June 2019 - 03:49 PM, said:

Can't we just play them in offline mode, as long as we download them in time? Annoying yes, but still doable since space is cheap these days, and old games don't take up too much of it.

I think the Steam client needs to phone home from time to time.
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Posted 17 June 2019 - 07:29 PM

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 12:11 AM

View PostMr Pink, on 17 June 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:


I find it pretty shoddy, to just share that information in an article buried somewhere on their support web site, giving us less than 24h to get those 32-bit games.
I must agree with this. I am SO happy I just happened to look here this evening.

View PostMrUNIMOG, on 17 June 2019 - 05:21 PM, said:

I think the Steam client needs to phone home from time to time.
Man, those sneaky bastards!
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 07:32 AM

All those before mentioned games have disappeared from the Mac App Store now.
The Pre-Sequel and BioShock Infinite getting the boot is kind of shocking, to be honest.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 07:42 AM

Yeah, a little more warning from Aspyr would have been nice. I would have expected a more gradual cut-off. But I can't imagine they did this lightly-- it's their revenue on the line, after all. Maybe someone decided that fielding support calls from Catalina breaking these games would cost more than any revenue they'd get from those games over the next few months.

In any case I can't imagine Steam or the App Store would allow the games to be sold once Catalina is out. In the old days you could continue to sell "obsolete" games if you were careful about publishing the system requirements. <insert grumpy old man rant here>

Apple's aggressive sunsetting policies has some benefits for consumers but it's hard to appreciate them at times like these. Guess I'd better put Homeworld Remastered and Bioshock Infinite on my "replay it while you can" list.
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:04 AM

On the gripping hand we had to deploy a windows 10 32-bit system this week because "vendor reasons". *rrrrrraaaaage*
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:28 AM

View PostMr Pink, on 17 June 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

I find it pretty shoddy, to just share that information in an article buried somewhere on their support web site, giving us less than 24h to get those 32-bit games.

Exactly. Couldn't they've waited at least a month or so? This way we could still get the games we want to buy before they're pulled, they could've earned some quick money because of all the people who stille want to buy these games before they're being pulled and if they're pulled by the end of July that's still plenty of time before the actual release of Catalina. No need to just pull them within 24 hours and three or four months before Catalina is being released.

I always wanted to buy Rage and Duke Nukem: Forever before the release of Catalina. I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be able to buy these games right now. It's such a shame, because I was really looking forward to them. Well, if Aspyr doesn't want my money I guess I'll just play a pirated version on my Windows laptop. Although I'm still hoping they'll be released as 64-bit Metal games in the future, but seeing how many games and updates Aspyr releases compared to Feral Interactive I don't have high hopes for Aspyr to port that many games to 64-bit.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 12:55 PM

View Postjos, on 18 June 2019 - 09:28 AM, said:

Well, if Aspyr doesn't want my money I guess I'll just play a pirated version on my Windows laptop.
You know you can buy them for Windows too, right? If anything you should be pissed at Aspyr, not the original developer who created the game. Crying "warez time!!!1!" is just plain childish.

View PostMr Pink, on 18 June 2019 - 07:32 AM, said:

All those before mentioned games have disappeared from the Mac App Store now.
The Pre-Sequel and BioShock Infinite getting the boot is kind of shocking, to be honest.
They are still available at MGS, and much cheaper.
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 01:18 PM

View PostThain Esh Kelch, on 18 June 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

They are still available at MGS, and much cheaper.

For now, until we get the notice to take them down too.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 01:40 PM

View PostMr Pink, on 18 June 2019 - 07:32 AM, said:

The Pre-Sequel and BioShock Infinite getting the boot is kind of shocking, to be honest.
BL:TPS definitely puzzles me, as it's technically extremely closely related to BL2.

Anyway, regarding the Steam versions (which right now are still listed as Mac compatible there): almost for sure this will work as it did with the delisted Feral ports, i.e. you still will be able to get the Mac version if you buy the games even after the Mac logo has been removed.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 05:24 PM

View PostJanichsan, on 18 June 2019 - 01:40 PM, said:

BL:TPS definitely puzzles me, as it's technically extremely closely related to BL2.
...especially after Aspyr tweeted two months ago, that Borderlands 2 and The Pre-Sequel will receive HD updates.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 06:08 PM

View PostMr Pink, on 18 June 2019 - 05:24 PM, said:

...especially after Aspyr tweeted two months ago, that Borderlands 2 and The Pre-Sequel will receive HD updates.

Good point. Seems like a triage move to me. They hit a deadline, either self-imposed or from the Mac App Store, and pulled down everything that wasn't done. So it's possible Pre-Sequel will come back later, but I wouldn't put money on it either way. And I'm probably reading too much into it, but the fact that Bioshock Infinite was a late addition to the list might mean they had been working on it too.

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Posted 19 June 2019 - 08:56 AM

View PostThain Esh Kelch, on 18 June 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

You know you can buy them for Windows too, right? If anything you should be pissed at Aspyr, not the original developer who created the game. Crying "warez time!!!1!" is just plain childish.

Of course I'm pissed at Aspyr, not the original developer. However, I want to support the Mac as a gaming platform, so of course I want my money to go to those who released the Mac version. By buying the Windows version I'm supporting Windows gaming, which is the exact opposite of what I want. Also, Windows versions have very intrusive DRM. I hate Steam and refuse to use it. That's why I buy games on the Mac App Store, because I refuse to use this ugly Steam client which has to be used to activate your games before you're allowed to play them and phone home every once in a while to check if you're still using a genuine version of the game.

As mentioned before in this topic: What happens when Valve stops supporting older versions of macOS? You can't update your Steam client to the newest version, so does this mean you can no longer download any games from Steam and does it mean the games you've already got installed will eventually stop working because Steam can no longer phone home? I just hate this ridiculous kind of DRM, so I'm not going to use Steam. On Windows about the only safe place to buy games is GOG, but even old games like Rage and Duke Nukem: Forever are not available there.

On both the Mac App Store and GOG you can just buy a game and play it without the need to first prove you actually bought a genuine version of it and then doing the same check again every once in a while. The game is installed, so you can just play it without an internet connection, make a copy of it on an external hard-drive or whatever. That's service I want to pay for and that's why I want publishers to embrace the Mac App Store, instead of only releasing their games in Steam.





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