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[G_Player]

iMac Pro will be released tomorrow.

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"Key additions include an Intel Corp. (INTC) Xeon processor with up to 18 cores, up to 128 GB of memory, a 27-inch Retina 5K display, a space grey-colored finish and one terabyte of storage configurable up to two or four terabytes. The iMac Pro is also set to feature a new dual centrifugal fan system designed to create more airflow and Advanced Micro Devices Inc.'s (AMD) Radeon Pro Vega graphic chip, described as over three times faster than any previous iMac graphic processing unit.

Apple will give customers the choice to buy the iMac Pro with an 8-, 10-, or 18-core processor. The entry level version will retail at $4,999."


I'll never own one of these.

*sigh*

[DirtyHarry50]

So for that kind of cash, can the GPU be upgraded as desired later on? I mean, I would hope a system with 18 cores, 128 GB of RAM and 4 TB of internal storage wouldn't become obsolete well before its time because you can't update the GPU.

I suppose anyone with that kind of money to spend wouldn't have a problem adding an external TB3 GPU enclosure, etc. later. After all, it's only money.

[mattw]

I've no doubt it will be a great machine for some needs but, it already appears there is some thermal throttling compared to the same GPU in a real desktop case. Barefeats tweeted how an old 2010 Mac Pro with the same GPU can outscore it:

https://twitter.com/barefeats

All in one machines have there own advantages but a traditional well ventilated case with upgradable components does too.

[Camper-Hunter]

DirtyHarry50, on 13 December 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

So for that kind of cash, can the GPU be upgraded as desired later on? I mean, I would hope a system with 18 cores, 128 GB of RAM and 4 TB of internal storage wouldn't become obsolete well before its time because you can't update the GPU.

Even the RAM isn't upgradable, and you'd like to change the GPU? Good joke, you're a funny guy.

[Sneaky Snake]

It's actually pretty much price comparable with doing a custom build PC: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2V9j3F

Keep in mind that the $4000 for that custom build doesn't include a 5K display with P3 colour, which is going to add at least another $1000. Obviously you can shave some dollars off of the price with a non-workstation GPU, but as the iMac Pro is a workstation computers, it kind of needs the workstation GPU in order to be certified for various pro applications.

[macdude22]

This is not a home machine, this is the machine ESPN is going to bolt into their news vans.

[Cougar]

Camper-Hunter, on 13 December 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

Even the RAM isn't upgradable, and you'd like to change the GPU? Good joke, you're a funny guy.

The RAM is upgradable if you take it to an authorized service center. But then you’re paying Apple RAM prices.

[Thain Esh Kelch]

It is also upgradeable by yourself.

[Camper-Hunter]

No it's not. Having to disassemble the glued screen and motherboard is not the definition of "upgradable", but rather it's advanced customization and a huge PITA.

[Thain Esh Kelch]

Yes it is. By your argument a standard self built chassis PC would be not upgradeable, because my mom wouldn't be able to.

It is an annoying upgrade due to the glue, but you can definitely do the RAM upgrade yourself.

[Sneaky Snake]

As long as stuff isn't soldered on and you have some way of getting to it, I would consider it upgradable. Huge pain in the ass, but still upgradable.

[Camper-Hunter]

Thain Esh Kelch, on 15 December 2017 - 06:44 AM, said:

Yes it is. By your argument a standard self built chassis PC would be not upgradeable, because my mom wouldn't be able to.

It is an annoying upgrade due to the glue, but you can definitely do the RAM upgrade yourself.

I'm sorry but that's a dumb example. A "standard self built chassis PC" is designed to be user upgradeable, without voiding the warranty (and even a prebuilt standard chassis lets you upgrade RAM without voiding warranty). The iMac Pro isn't designed for this, in Apple's words, and doing it yourself will void warranty.

Here's IMHO a better example: a good mechanic can replace a car's engine; that doesn't make it upgradeable either.

Sneaky Snake, on 15 December 2017 - 08:21 AM, said:

As long as stuff isn't soldered on and you have some way of getting to it, I would consider it upgradable. Huge pain in the ass, but still upgradable.

Soldered stuff can be unsoldered and replaced, with the right skills and equipment. So basically anything can be upgradable.

I think I should have emphasized I meant "normal" user upgradeable, no warranty voiding.

[DirtyHarry50]

Oh, come on you candy ass sissy boys. Break out the blow torches, knives, glue guns and be men about this. Good Lord! Anything can be upgraded! Anything!!! You can make it better, faster, etc.!

Oh, and don't forget the universal adjusting tool and a small container to store the parts left over after, that you can't remember where they came from. As long as it boots when you're done, those superfluous parts can be stored for a rainy day or future upgrade possibly.

[Cougar]

The internet has the amazing ability to generate the most pointlessly pedantic arguments.

[Camper-Hunter]

Cougar, not unlike family reunions.

[DirtyHarry50]

Camper-Hunter, on 16 December 2017 - 01:37 AM, said:

Cougar, not unlike family reunions.

That's a great idea! My vote is for Frost to host so we can all partake in the sport of shooting the guy he's had a problem with and then after we can turn on each other or maybe team deathmatch if everybody shows up.

By the way, I'm on Frost's team because I want to be alive to return home after.

[the Battle Cat]

Cougar, on 15 December 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

The internet has the amazing ability to generate the most pointlessly pedantic arguments.

Hey!  I'm standing right here.

DirtyHarry50, on 17 December 2017 - 01:51 AM, said:

That's a great idea! My vote is for Frost to host so we can all partake in the sport of shooting the guy he's had a problem with and then after we can turn on each other or maybe team deathmatch if everybody shows up.

By the way, I'm on Frost's team because I want to be alive to return home after.

I'm calling BS on this.  The chances of you showing up for a game you promised to join is about the same as you showing up for a game you promised to join.  You just want to see everybody die is all.  Oh and save me a seat, I'll bring popcorn.

[UmarOMC1]

Nope. I'll wait for the MacPro.

[Frost]

DirtyHarry50, on 17 December 2017 - 01:51 AM, said:

That's a great idea! My vote is for Frost to host so we can all partake in the sport of shooting the guy he's had a problem with and then after we can turn on each other or maybe team deathmatch if everybody shows up.

By the way, I'm on Frost's team because I want to be alive to return home after.

I have enough to arm 7 people adequately plus myself, or 12 if we make it stretch and only give edged weapons to the people we know are going to suck. Anybody more than that and the IRL team deatchmatch with be BYOG.

I've got the perfect place nearby to do it too. TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES.

[DirtyHarry50]

If you think I am going in with some +1 Rusty Sword of Good Luck Buddy, forget it. My next door neighbor is an US ARMY vet who drove M1 Abrams tanks and would be happy to level the playing field for me... literally.