 CIV IV Comments/opinions/suggestions, A new thread to organize thoughts about the game |
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 July 31st 2006, 03:10 AM
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Corybantic Character Conquistador  Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 5,860 Joined: November 16 '04 Member No.: 6,677  |
Gah! It's worse! I didn't stick around to see if there are more sounds, because the audio now goes on and off randomly with a really annoying "POP!". Sigh...dual 2.5 G5, 10.4.3 here.
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July 31st 2006, 04:46 AM
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Legendary Group: IMG Writers Posts: 1,408 Joined: July 30 '01 From: Holland, PA; US Member No.: 6 |
QUOTE(Eric5h5 @ July 31st 2006, 05:10 AM)  10.4.3 here. Worth upgrading to 10.4.7, surely? -------------------- Matt Diamond - www.mindthecube.com
Measure twice, cut once, curse three or four times. |
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July 31st 2006, 09:05 AM
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Corybantic Character Conquistador Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 5,860 Joined: November 16 '04 Member No.: 6,677 |
QUOTE(Matt Diamond @ July 31st 2006, 06:46 AM) Worth upgrading to 10.4.7, surely? No, 10.4.7 seems like it broke too much stuff. I'll at least get 10.4.6 and try it on another partition though. I'm just not one of those people who feels the need to upgrade every time I see a higher version number...I have a nice stable system and I don't want to risk anything right now. --Eric |
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July 31st 2006, 09:56 AM
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Legendary Group: IMG Writers Posts: 1,408 Joined: July 30 '01 From: Holland, PA; US Member No.: 6 |
QUOTE(Eric5h5 @ July 31st 2006, 11:05 AM) No, 10.4.7 seems like it broke too much stuff. I'll at least get 10.4.6 and try it on another partition though. I'm just not one of those people who feels the need to upgrade every time I see a higher version number...I have a nice stable system and I don't want to risk anything right now. Fair enough. The impression I've been getting is that it was the Quicktime update that broke everything. I've been avoiding the last couple of Quicktime updates for that reason. But I don't claim to know the whole story. -------------------- Matt Diamond - www.mindthecube.com
Measure twice, cut once, curse three or four times. |
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July 31st 2006, 12:34 PM
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 Notorious Group: Members Posts: 218 Joined: October 27 '04 Member No.: 6,589 |
So, with the new update officially here, what are your stories with 10.4.7?
Much better, smoother? All audio here finally? |
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July 31st 2006, 01:21 PM
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 Aspyr Media Group: Developer Posts: 1,648 Joined: August 6 '01 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 184 |
QUOTE(Eric5h5 @ July 31st 2006, 02:10 AM) Gah! It's worse! I didn't stick around to see if there are more sounds, because the audio now goes on and off randomly with a really annoying "POP!". Sigh...dual 2.5 G5, 10.4.3 here. 10.4.7 will fix this - it includes (and Civ4 is now using) the updated version of OpenAL it provides. For 10.4.6 and less, you may have audio problems still. -------------------- Brad Oliver
bradman at pobox dot com |
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July 31st 2006, 02:39 PM
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 Master Blaster Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: March 20 '05 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 7,179 |
How is performance now on machines that just meet the system requirements. Specifically Rev. A iMac G5's.
-------------------- Mac Pro 2.66 Ghz NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 7 GB RAM SONY DW-D150A SuperDrive
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July 31st 2006, 02:46 PM
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 tBC is the greatest! Group: IMG Pro Users Posts: 2,907 Joined: May 21 '02 From: Tansi (USA) Member No.: 2,114 |
QUOTE(Dark_Archon @ July 31st 2006, 04:39 PM) How is performance now on machines that just meet the system requirements. Specifically Rev. A iMac G5's. You'll get a wider set of experiences here. -------------------- "There is no end to sorrow." ---Van Gogh
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July 31st 2006, 03:31 PM
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Corybantic Character Conquistador Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 5,860 Joined: November 16 '04 Member No.: 6,677 |
QUOTE(Brad Oliver @ July 31st 2006, 03:21 PM) 10.4.7 will fix this - it includes (and Civ4 is now using) the updated version of OpenAL it provides. For 10.4.6 and less, you may have audio problems still. Aha, that's worth knowing, thanks! Although it's that same updated version of OpenAL that broke a few other games apparently. Well, I suppose I'm going to have to upgrade eventually...I'm thinking I'll wait until 10.4.8 and see if things have gotten a little more sorted out by then. --Eric |
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July 31st 2006, 04:35 PM
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Aspyr Media Group: Developer Posts: 1,648 Joined: August 6 '01 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 184 |
QUOTE(Eric5h5 @ July 31st 2006, 02:31 PM) Aha, that's worth knowing, thanks! Although it's that same updated version of OpenAL that broke a few other games apparently. What other games were broken by this? -------------------- Brad Oliver
bradman at pobox dot com |
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July 31st 2006, 04:45 PM
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tBC is the greatest! Group: IMG Pro Users Posts: 2,907 Joined: May 21 '02 From: Tansi (USA) Member No.: 2,114 |
QUOTE(Brad Oliver @ July 31st 2006, 06:35 PM) What other games were broken by this? I believe X2: The Threat. I don't believe it refers to Aspyr games. -------------------- "There is no end to sorrow." ---Van Gogh
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August 1st 2006, 08:30 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: July 2 '06 Member No.: 8,823 |
Brad,
Much, much better for the Rev A patch. Kudos! My MacBook Pro doesn't feel like it's going to melt. The sounds are pretty much all there based upon my past experience with the PC version. A new annoying bug is a very frequent: Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000200 The console dump has been shipped to Apple via Crash Reporter. Running 10.4.7, patch Rev A on a MBP w/ 2GB RAM. We're getting very close! Thanks for your efforts. |
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August 1st 2006, 09:18 PM
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 Uberspewer Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 3,159 Joined: December 8 '04 Member No.: 6,776 |
QUOTE(jtonn @ August 2nd 2006, 12:30 PM) The console dump has been shipped to Apple via Crash Reporter. Email it to Aspyr too. AFAIK Apple doesn't allow third party developers to access submissions from its crash reporter. You can find your crash logs in ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/. |
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August 2nd 2006, 07:49 AM
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Legendary Group: IMG Writers Posts: 1,408 Joined: July 30 '01 From: Holland, PA; US Member No.: 6 |
QUOTE(dojoboy @ July 31st 2006, 06:45 PM) I believe X2: The Threat. X2 works for me. I've played it once or twice since switching to 10.4.7 but no problems noted. (I am not running the latest version of Quicktime though. I'm one or two patches behind.) Your mileage may vary. I remember a post from Freeverse that claimed some of their own games might have broken, but I haven't heard anything since then. And I think Pangea may also have reported a possible problem. It would sure be nice to get a handle on the widespread rumors and anecdotes about 10.4.7 and/or Quicktime. -------------------- Matt Diamond - www.mindthecube.com
Measure twice, cut once, curse three or four times. |
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August 2nd 2006, 02:35 PM
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Corybantic Character Conquistador Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 5,860 Joined: November 16 '04 Member No.: 6,677 |
OK, seems most of the issues were actually Quicktime 7 related or are being patched. (Like Freespace 2...to quote mtr, "Supposedly 10.4.7 provides full OpenAL 1.1 support, but it blatantly violates the 1.1 spec in at least two areas (what causes the hang, and what causes the no-sound issue)").
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August 8th 2006, 12:41 PM
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Legendary Group: Members Posts: 895 Joined: October 10 '01 From: Eastern Washington state Member No.: 688 |
QUOTE(Eric5h5 @ August 2nd 2006, 08:35 PM) OK, seems most of the issues were actually Quicktime 7 related or are being patched. (Like Freespace 2...to quote mtr, "Supposedly 10.4.7 provides full OpenAL 1.1 support, but it blatantly violates the 1.1 spec in at least two areas (what causes the hang, and what causes the no-sound issue)"). --Eric Does Apple provide fixes for their "auto-update" patches or do they just expect you to download the combo-update and install that? |
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August 8th 2006, 03:50 PM
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Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: February 10 '03 From: Boston Member No.: 3,415 |
They expect you to manually download and install. One of the stupidest things they've ever done, really.
-------------------- Questions, comments, arguments, refutations, criticisms, and/or sea stories?
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August 25th 2006, 10:57 PM
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Fan Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: August 22 '01 Member No.: 348 |
Does anyone know how this game runs on a standard MacBook (not Pro?) Is the integrated Intel chipset adequate, or will the graphics slaughter my system?
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August 26th 2006, 12:17 PM
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Notorious Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: December 19 '05 Member No.: 8,079 |
QUOTE(Chris FOM @ August 25th 2006, 09:57 PM) Does anyone know how this game runs on a standard MacBook (not Pro?) Is the integrated Intel chipset adequate, or will the graphics slaughter my system? It almost certainly will slaughter your system. Intel graphics can't handle many current gen games. |
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October 17th 2006, 02:59 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: July 2 '03 Member No.: 4,125 |
Does anyone know if in multi-player mode I can play using the Mac version against someone playing the PC version?
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