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[Irishman]

So, I'm sharing my continuing experience with GFN:

I have noticed that even more games have stopped working for me (Borderlands 1 and 2), adding to the list that includes Doom 2016, Quake Champions, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. If they can’t continue to provide access to games that I and others want to play, why should we stick around?!?

I was just about ready to buy Borderlands 3 since it’s launching on Steam this weekend, but if nVidia can’t keep their developers/publishers from pulling their games, I’m not sure....

[Janichsan]

[Thain Esh Kelch]

Too good for consumers. Good. But why the frack does that mean they pull their games? It makes NO sense. I could imagine if one or two companies did it, just because they are EA/Blizzard, but so many? It makes no sense.

[Cougar]

Thain Esh Kelch, on 15 March 2020 - 09:58 AM, said:

Too good for consumers. Good. But why the frack does that mean they pull their games? It makes NO sense. I could imagine if one or two companies did it, just because they are EA/Blizzard, but so many? It makes no sense.

For the smaller companies, I wonder if it’s just them not realizing what it is. I can’t help but wonder if it had gone final before Stadia was released, things would be different. Now had been in beta for years without any developer freaking out about it.

[Thain Esh Kelch]

Cougar, on 15 March 2020 - 10:31 AM, said:

For the smaller companies, I wonder if it's just them not realizing what it is.

If that is the case, they are incredibly incompetent. It would take them 5 minutes of research to figure it out.

[Matt Diamond]

My guess is that publishers want to get paid. From the consumer's point of view we bought the game license so this makes no sense. We might even buy more games because we have a new way to play them. But the publishers clearly have the ability to yank their games, so that gives them leverage. If they can charge, many companies will. It's shortsighted but there you are.

[Thain Esh Kelch]

It is the argument that makes the most reason, but I don't know what they want to leverage about, as I am quite sure that there's a legal problem in what they are doing, unless Nvidia has to do specific software changes to each software in order for things to work.

[Matt Diamond]

Thain Esh Kelch, on 16 March 2020 - 04:32 AM, said:

It is the argument that makes the most reason, but I don't know what they want to leverage about, as I am quite sure that there's a legal problem in what they are doing, unless Nvidia has to do specific software changes to each software in order for things to work.

You could very well be right, but faced with a demand from the publisher, nVidia might have to cave or go to court. A potentially lengthy and expensive fight, for a service which may not be a huge moneymaker.

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on tv. But I did represent myself in small claims court once.

[Cougar]

Thain Esh Kelch, on 16 March 2020 - 04:32 AM, said:

It is the argument that makes the most reason, but I don't know what they want to leverage about, as I am quite sure that there's a legal problem in what they are doing, unless Nvidia has to do specific software changes to each software in order for things to work.

It doesn’t. In the early days of the beta you could get any Steam game to work with a workaround. You could even see the Windows desktop. The comic is quite correct: you’re just renting access to a remote PC.

[Irishman]

Well, I just submitted a help ticket to 2K about puling their games from GFN. I'll let you know if/when I get a helpful answer.

[Frost]

Janichsan, on 15 March 2020 - 09:25 AM, said:

Basically, this.

You're paying to rent a remote PC from NVIDIA. They would rather you pay to rent their games when you stream, or alternately buy them a second time. Because it doesn't matter that you had to buy their game in the first place in order to play it on GFN. By God, you should pay twice and pad that bottom line, you consumer scum!

Glad NVIDIA is continuing to support their GameStream solution too so I can just stream it from my own PC and give publishers the middle finger. Doesn't matter if GFN gives me less lag if the fookin' publishers won't let me use it.