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#41 Frost

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 01:30 PM

FWIW, a couple cheap SATA SSDs in a RAID gets you a crap ton of speed too. Iíve been running the dual Intel 730s in my sig since about 2014 and they are plenty fast for everything, gaming included. On paper the 960 Pro is WAY faster than they are. In reality, load time differences of games etc. are almost imperceptible. Only huge difference the 960 Pro makes is in system responsiveness with the OS on it.
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 11:44 AM

so, ordered a mini with 256GB SSD, i7, 8GB RAM and an external 1TB Evo 860 for my TB-Case for the OS, that I am too lazy to clean up all my user data from.

everything else will come/ be replaced in time.

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#43 Tetsuya

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 04:01 PM

The RAM appears to be pretty easy to upgrade, if a tad time consuming.  iFixit’s community did a teardown.  Seems easy.

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:03 PM

Looking forward to seeing reports of how the i7 2018 Mini with an eGPU performs, both in terms of noise/any throttling and also eGPU reliability.

At least there is finally some possible path forward when my machine no longer runs the software if (as is likely the case) the new Mac Pro ends up like the iMac Pro and priced beyond the hobbyist.

Whatever happens it looks like mass storage will need to be external anyway. I wonder if a 10 gigabit Ethernet NAS can match internal SATA 2 speeds? I hate going backwards in any area.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 06:42 PM

SATA 3 is 6Gb/s when fully maxed out.  

10Gb/s Ethernet should be just fine, provided the drives in the NAS can keep up.  

Also, external USB3 SATA-III based SSDs will be fine on this new Mini - if im not mistaken the Thunderbolt 3/USB-C combo ports support USB 3.1, which is plenty fast for daily driving tasks.

View Postmattw, on 08 November 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

Looking forward to seeing reports of how the i7 2018 Mini with an eGPU performs, both in terms of noise/any throttling and also eGPU reliability.

Itll be as good as a mid-range gaming PC.  The main limitation will be the eGPU effectively being stuck at PCIe 3.0 4x, which isn't an issue to most cards up to and including mid-range GPUs, but does bottleneck the performance of higher end cards.  

Unless someone comes up with a way to duplex the ports somehow (using 2 TB3 ports to double the bandwidth or something).  

Still.. thats perfectly fine, IMO.  Considering the form factor and the (relatively) reasonable price of the new Mini, it seems like a decent compromise.  The Intel NUCs with less I/O (but similar CPUs) are about the same price.  For once, you're not really paying a giant Apple Tax unless you get them to upgrade the storage or RAM.