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Warcraft 3 remaster, sorry 'reforged'

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#1 nick68k

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 05:55 PM

HD remaster of WC3 coming next year if you like that kind of thing....
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Posted 03 November 2018 - 05:57 AM

I certainly do like that kind of thing. Warcraft 3 + Expansion pack was freaking amazing.
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Posted 03 November 2018 - 04:27 PM

It actually looks really nice. They've clearly upgraded the renderer a ton to support the new visuals.

I'm a bit mixed that they're upgrading the campaigns (the level they're showing off is completely different from the original) and redoing all the cutscenes (the ones they've shown look stilted, with the higher fidelity models and the old voice acting, with just basic camera angles and animations straight out of 2003). I'm not against it, but I don't know that it's really going to be an improvement.

It does sound like they plan on recreating all the cinematics, which is amazing (the upgraded teaser looked fantastic). Especially since they've been cutting way back on cinematics for their newer releases (RoS and LotV both had only a single cinematic).

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 09:22 PM

Wowhead has been showcasing a lot of the unit model art for WC3 Reforged lately - follow the link for the details, but here's a taster for you. Look familiar?

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 12:28 AM

View Postnick68k, on 21 October 2019 - 09:22 PM, said:

Wowhead has been showcasing a lot of the unit model art for WC3 Reforged lately - follow the link for the details, but here's a taster for you. Look familiar?

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Posted 07 November 2019 - 10:16 AM

Anybody play the beta yet? I would’ve bought it if I could get my friend from high school to play, (we played all the time) but alas he’s a very busy doctor man now...

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Posted 18 December 2019 - 11:49 AM

Release date is Jan 28, 2020.
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Posted 19 January 2020 - 02:39 AM

The first Mac beta is horrible. Low framerate, but CPU and GPU usage is low, plus there is an helper "BlizzardBrowser" Electron app consuming a whole core. Hopefully it will get better.

The updated graphics are weird.

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Posted 19 January 2020 - 11:04 AM

View Postgalad, on 19 January 2020 - 02:39 AM, said:

plus there is an helper "BlizzardBrowser" Electron app consuming a whole core.

:facepalm: Can you figure out what it does? What happens if you force quit it when the game is running?

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Posted 19 January 2020 - 11:13 AM

View Postgalad, on 19 January 2020 - 02:39 AM, said:

The updated graphics are weird.
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Posted 19 January 2020 - 02:34 PM

I don't know. I killed it and game got stuck in the menu.

The new 3d models are more realistic and high resolution when you zoom in, but maybe too detailed when looked at a distance. Then there are some effects like water that looks the same as the original one from 15 years ago.

Either way, it will need so many months of bug fixes…

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 10:26 PM

Speaking of, the 8.3 patch of WoW, which was released a week ago and contains the final raid of the expansion, plus a bunch of other content, is unplayable on many Macs due to a show-stopping bug (which seems to be related to Intel GPU overheats). People, understandably, are not happy.
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Posted 28 January 2020 - 09:31 PM

View Postnick68k, on 18 December 2019 - 11:49 AM, said:


Well it's out, and it runs well enough on my crappy 2015 Retina iMac

(UNLIKE WOW YOU BUNCH OF BLIZZARD AMATEURS)
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Posted 29 January 2020 - 10:01 AM

Lol, so apparently even if you don’t buy reforged, you’re forced to download a 30 GB update to the client in order to continue to use battle.net, which no longer has skill-based matchmaking or a ladder. What a disaster.

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Posted 29 January 2020 - 03:29 PM

View PostCougar, on 29 January 2020 - 10:01 AM, said:

Lol, so apparently even if you don't buy reforged, you're forced to download a 30 GB update to the client in order to continue to use battle.net, which no longer has skill-based matchmaking or a ladder. What a disaster.

Wait...what, really?
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Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:57 AM

View Postnick68k, on 29 January 2020 - 03:29 PM, said:

Wait...what, really?
Indeed, they really did a clusterfrak with this game.

I looked at some of the cutscene 'upgrades', and they COMPLETELY ruined the feel of the game. I have absolutely no interest in this anymore, and I've played my share of 1000+ hours of Warcraft 3 content. I don't like to say this often, but Blizzard does feel doomed these days... Or should I say Activision minion #418. I really have to wonder at what went wrong here? It is as if they had absolutely no idea what they were doing!
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Posted 30 January 2020 - 09:58 PM

the words "Trash Fire" spring to mind.

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 07:50 AM

A good summation of everything wrong with the remaster over at Ars: https://arstechnica....for/?comments=1

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 12:31 PM

Wow. The old Blizzard would have delayed or cancelled this. Or, would worked on a new RTS title instead of remaking an old one on the cheap.
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Posted 31 January 2020 - 01:51 PM

View PostMatt Diamond, on 31 January 2020 - 12:31 PM, said:

Wow. The old Blizzard would have delayed or cancelled this. Or, would worked on a new RTS title instead of remaking an old one on the cheap.

Well, it's not an either/or thing. The art for this was outsourced (same company that did the SC1 remaster) and they have a separate team that works on the programming for these remasters. I hope the SC2 team is actually working on WC4 or SC3.

A properly done WC3 remaster would be a great thing to have, but this isn't it.