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[UmarOMC1]

It's odd but it always works for me. Play the opening videos of the game found in Borderlands3>OakGame>Content>Movies (first 3 files) from the Finder just using Quick Look (Spacebar default) and they end up playing smoothly after launching the game.

imgur.com/a/YyASYRC

[UmarOMC1]

Alright. Post update demo run (definite improvement, and it ran smoothly instead of chunking along every time something loaded into the scene);

BenchmarkResults 2019-11-26_02-16-26
- FramesPerSecondAvg:   70.12
- FrameTimeMsAvg:   14.26

OS: 10.14.6
- Version: 18G1012
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CPU: GenericCPUBrand
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- LogicalCores: 12
RAM: 65536.00 MB
GPU: AMD Radeon VII
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- DriverVersion:    AMDRadeonX5000 2.11.21 21406 (Internal: 2.11.21, Unified: 2.11.21)
- DriverDate:   2019-10-24 11:06:41 +0000
ScreenResolution:    2560x1440
RenderResolution:    2560x1440
ScreenPercentage:    100
HDR: Off

GameUserSettings
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- StatsLevel: 0
- FPSLimit: Capped60FPS
- FPSLimitCustom: 144
- GfxQuality-Override: Undefined
- GfxQuality-Recommended: Low
- GfxQuality: High
- TextureStreaming: Ultra
- MaterialQuality: Medium
- Aniso: SixteenX
- Shadows: Ultra
- DrawDistance: Medium
- EnvironmentDetail: Ultra
- Terrain: Ultra
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- CAS: 1
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- ObjectBlur: 0
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[Matt Diamond]

Very interesting. I'd come to opposite conclusion - little to no improvement in gameplay. Had some good sessions, some mediocre sessions. Just now I got a crash while loading a level, and when I clicked Submit the crash reporter itself stopped responding.

Despite this I am still enjoying the game well enough, but I sure could be enjoying it a lot more.

[Thain Esh Kelch]

How is the story compared to BL2?

[Matt Diamond]

The story is pretty good. I'm enjoying it more than Pre-Sequel. Not nearly as fun or funny as BL2, but then what is?

The villains running things in this one are just plain annoying most of the time. (They are supposed to be, of course, but unlike Handsome Jack they are too aware of their own nastiness.) There are some fun cameos from previous games, and some decent new characters.

The free content that was added for Halloween is still active for a few more days and I've run through it a few times already to beef up my levels. I'll kind of be glad when its over though - after killing some badasses I sometimes have about 10 seconds to kill a badass ghost as well, and the ghost has occasionally killed me without any other enemies nearby to get a second wind from.

I like the dual-elemental weapons, the 3d cues on the map, the cars that are basically one giant wheel, and the ability to hijack vehicles to unlock new styles and abilities. And I especially like the ability to Fast Travel from almost anywhere to your vehicle, or to any Fast Travel station you've previously encountered.

So there's a lot to like. It's already gone on sale for $40 so keep that in mind before paying $60.

[Thain Esh Kelch]

Jack was very much aware of his nastyness, he just chose to ignore it.

Jack was awesome. BL3 can never live up to him, so I expect to find it a bit meh unfortunately.

[UmarOMC1]

I'm having more fun than I remember having in Borderlands. After a few hours I uninstalled BL2 and BL:TPS, only the former I'd actually finished (before the HD update), the latter I found somewhat boring. The locales and gameplay mechanics alone are enough improvements to convince me that I'd miss them if I started playing the older titles again. I'm really digging the graphics, lighting effects and smaller nuances like seeing sand blow around in areas where there's sand (no, it looks really good) when I glance down.

[Matt Diamond]

Just got an email from Epic about the FPS issue I reported. I'm supposed to reset my PRAM, SMC, and clear Epic's cache. If that doesn't solve the issue I can try reinstalling the game. Then if it still happens, would I please send them a video of the problem?

I guess I don't blame them completely- they are probably getting thousands of reports of varying quality. But we've already reproduced this issue for them on 2 different platforms. I'd hoped that might be enough to get it past ltriage.

[Thain Esh Kelch]

UmarOMC1, on 27 November 2019 - 04:26 PM, said:

I'm having more fun than I remember having in Borderlands. After a few hours I uninstalled BL2 and BL:TPS, only the former I'd actually finished (before the HD update), the latter I found somewhat boring.

Wow. I found BL2 to have the best baddie ever, and a really great story. TPS was a bit meh though.

[strangemax]

Is it just me or is BL3 a horrible port? It's practically unplayable on my 16" MacBook even at low settings. We got a new Mac Pro today to play around with so I figured, hey BL3 is got to run sweet on this thing! Nope. Ugh

[Cougar]

strangemax, on 13 December 2019 - 09:15 AM, said:

Is it just me or is BL3 a horrible port? It's practically unplayable on my 16" MacBook even at low settings. We got a new Mac Pro today to play around with so I figured, hey BL3 is got to run sweet on this thing! Nope. Ugh

TBF...the base graphics card in the Mac Pro came out in 2017.

Not to hijack the thread, but how are you liking the 16” otherwise?

[macdude22]

Make sure you are playing at a halved resolution not the native retina resolution. 4k is rough on the best of cards. IME BL3 defaulted to the native display resolution instead of a more reasonable subset. Well done ports tend to do this automatically. Even the Sims 4 defaulted to an appropriate halved resolution on my iMac.

[ozzy]

I agree it is a horrible port. My 2012 MBP with Thunderbolt 1 plays much much better (admittedly not perfect though) in Windows with the same eGPU (Vega 56) than it does on a 2018 MBP with Thunderbolt 3 and the same eGPU

I'd have to check the results, but I think the direct Mac/Windows benchmarks on the same 2012 MBP with Thunderbolt 1 and Vega 56 eGPU are something like ~15 FPS (Mac) vs ~55 FPS (Windows) with the same settings and resolution

[UmarOMC1]

Super smooth for me. Unfortunately the minimum system requirements are lower for the Windows version too (i5 as opposed to the i7 required for macOS).

[Matt Diamond]

New patch: https://borderlands....3-patch-dec-12/
Also a new holiday mission for everyone, coming soon. They're being pretty generous with the free DLC so far.

Edit: My bad-- the new Heist mission is apparently paid DLC. Price unknown, but presumably its the first mission of the 4-mission season pass, which costs a whopping $50.
So it'll probably be $15-$20 for the one mission.

[strangemax]

Cougar, on 13 December 2019 - 09:54 AM, said:

TBF...the base graphics card in the Mac Pro came out in 2017.

Not to hijack the thread, but how are you liking the 16" otherwise?

Booted in windows on the Mac Pro and it runs great with the base graphics card.

I really like the extra screen space of the 16 and it's not much bigger than the 15 I had before. And, although I didn't hate the keys in the previous model, the new/old keyboard does feel better.

Before I got the Mac Pro I tested out an external GPU with a Radeon Pro WX9100 and Borderlands still was horrible even at low settings.

macdude22, on 13 December 2019 - 11:29 AM, said:

Make sure you are playing at a halved resolution not the native retina resolution. 4k is rough on the best of cards. IME BL3 defaulted to the native display resolution instead of a more reasonable subset. Well done ports tend to do this automatically. Even the Sims 4 defaulted to an appropriate halved resolution on my iMac.

What system are you running? Catalina?

[UmarOMC1]

Matt Diamond, on 15 December 2019 - 10:00 AM, said:

New patch: https://borderlands....3-patch-dec-12/
Also a new holiday mission for everyone, coming soon. They're being pretty generous with the free DLC so far.

Edit: My bad-- the new Heist mission is apparently paid DLC. Price unknown, but presumably its the first mission of the 4-mission season pass, which costs a whopping $50.
So it'll probably be $15-$20 for the one mission.

Unfortunately I bought it right after a big sale so, not expecting to like it so much after that Pre-Sequel experience, I'll have to wait for the Season Pass to go on sale.

[Homy]

If you think the Mac port is bad you should be happy to hear that Borderlands 3 wins the award for the Worst Optimization of 2019 on pc, according to Hardware Unboxed. I guess we weren't hallucinating. It should also win the worst Mac port and optimization of 2019.

[jeannot]

Performance is often a problem in games that use a generic engine that is not tailored for them.

[MrUNIMOG]

jeannot, on 29 December 2019 - 10:20 AM, said:

Performance is often a problem in games that use a generic engine that is not tailored for them.

Borderlands has always been Unreal Engine though, hasn't it?