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[Homy]

Great analysis Ozzy!

[dr.zeissler]

When will they fix this ugly controller issue. It's one thing not to have optimized software for a new chip and tell us: play the old stuff it's good enough...but without controller-support? man this transition is a popsnizzlety one.

Who is to blame for the controller-issue?

[jeannot]

dr.zeissler, on 27 March 2021 - 01:58 AM, said:

When will they fix this ugly controller issue. It's one thing not to have optimized software for a new chip and tell us: play the old stuff it's good enough...but without controller-support? man this transition is a popsnizzlety one.

Who is to blame for the controller-issue?

Game developers not supporting controllers?

[dr.zeissler]

What? Those games work fine on intel with controller, but not on M1.

[UmarOMC1]

I can only guess it might be no native/M1 kext for said controller and/or the developer's approach for controller support was ad hoc.

[Brad Oliver]

dr.zeissler, on 25 November 2020 - 09:27 AM, said:

The "middleware" seems to be "standard-stuff", so who is responsible for that?
Do the porters use their own "middleware"...? what are we talking about? sound-libs/keyb-/mouse/joystick-libs?

We're talking about middleware like Havok, Wwise, PhysX and so on. We don't typically have the full source for these bits, so we generally hit up the middleware provider, beg for a version and then wait. It's particularly problematic for older versions. There are many different versions of Wwise and Havok, for example, and it's not as simple as just dropping in a new one, as it often breaks compatibility with existing game data. So we wait.

But beyond that, there's no native Steamworks yet, so it's currently close-to-impossible to release M1-native stuff on Steam.

dr.zeissler, on 27 March 2021 - 01:58 AM, said:

When will they fix this ugly controller issue.

Who is "they" and what is the controller issue?

[dr.zeissler]

It's perhaps the same problem. Afaik some devs do support controllers in their games natively (if you have an installed 3rdparty-driver you have to disable it in order to get the game working (mostly older aspyr-titles). Then devs use the 3rdparty drivers for their dvd-releases. I also think that the steam client has it's own driver for gamepads. And this driver does not seem to work in most cases under ros2. Therefore games that have working controller support in steam don't have it anymore if you run the game on M1.