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#1 UmarOMC1

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Posted 08 March 2021 - 01:52 AM

Apple M1 silicon upsets the establishment by skipping past the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and coming close to Intel Core i7-11700K single-thread performance on PassMark

The Apple M1 SoC, also frequently known as Apple Silicon, has made a ground-breaking entry into PassMark’s CPU Mark chart for single-thread performance. The Apple M1’s rating placed it above the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and nipping at the heels of the Intel Core i7-11700K, thus unsettling the AMD/Intel establishment with its presence.
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Posted 08 March 2021 - 09:21 AM

The headline angered some commentors, leading to this gem of a response: "Oh no! The establishment are commenting!"

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Posted 08 March 2021 - 12:11 PM

Gotta say, I love my Mac Mini M1.  Slippery fast.
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Posted 08 March 2021 - 12:48 PM

View Postthe Battle Cat, on 08 March 2021 - 12:11 PM, said:

Slippery fast.

That's opened up an interesting stock photo rabbit hole. Who knew?

(Presumably these individuals can also be taken to represent the 'the establishment'. Except they aren't wearing badges saying that, as they would in a regular newsprint cartoon)

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Posted 09 March 2021 - 12:17 PM

I'd call that graphic "random topicality".  Nicely done.
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Posted 12 March 2021 - 06:59 PM

RISC has always been better. That IBM could keep pace with Intel during PowerPC days until they stopped trying, with 1/10 of the R&D budget, spoke volumes.

My only gripe is wiping out all my games for the Nth time. Aside from that, bring on ARM.
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Posted 13 March 2021 - 12:24 AM

If I remember correctly the cost of staying with PowerPC forced Apple to use water cooling in its G5 systems
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Posted 13 March 2021 - 08:58 AM

Well I finally took the plunge and added an M1 Mac Mini to my elderly 2009 Mac Pro.

I was going to hold on for a more powerful GPU in later Macs with M1X, M2 or whatever but as there are no signs of triple A games announced for Apple Silicon I figured there was really no point in waiting and not benefitting from the lower power consumption and being on a later OS for my day to day stuff.

By the time the games come to Apple Silicon I can upgrade to another Mini as this was only a fraction the price of my Mac Pro (especially considering inflation) so I don't expect the same 12 year plus life span.

I'll just turn on the Mac Pro now for games and legacy 32 bit apps when needed (rather than selling it as I had thought before the transition was announced).

I actually relented and installed Windows on it in the last year to play some titles that I just couldn't get otherwise so if Mac gaming doesn't get resurrected when the Apple Silicon Macs have been around a while I can see me building a tiny PC for gaming only (I'm too invested in the Apple ecosystem to migrate everything). I've not tried it yet but If there was a way of using a force feedback steering wheel remotely I could likely get away with in home streaming and have that in a cupboard.

One project I am now planning on starting is moving my hard disks and media files to the network and out of the room. I resisted this due to concerns about speed and backups but after finding the silence of the Mini a greater benefit than expected I think it will be worth the trade off. If only SSD storage was much much cheaper I'd probably move away from hard disks altogether - maybe one day.....
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Posted 13 March 2021 - 06:02 PM

View PostUmarOMC1, on 13 March 2021 - 12:24 AM, said:

If I remember correctly the cost of staying with PowerPC forced Apple to use water cooling in its G5 systems
I think that was well after the "stopped trying" period though. IBM no longer had much interest in developing the PowerPC and their main focus was on POWER and getting big iron contracts (this being before they unified POWER and PowerPC into just "Power" down the road later). Clocking up and using liquid cooling came after Apple had already seen the writing on the wall and was moving to Intel after years of stagnation.

A few years earlier PowerPC was kicking some ass.

This is kind of like going back to that, except Apple is not at the mercy of IBM or Motorola becoming lazy with development and losing focus.
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Posted 13 March 2021 - 09:57 PM

View PostFrost, on 13 March 2021 - 06:02 PM, said:

This is kind of like going back to that, except Apple is not at the mercy of IBM or Motorola becoming lazy with development and losing focus.
Very poignant.
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Posted 15 March 2021 - 04:33 AM

It will be very interesting to see if Apple can keep up the crazy SOC development they've been doing since the A4. They have to hit a wall at some point, Moores law, physics, and all.

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 10:01 PM

After using iMacs this whole time, I also dived right in a got a Mac mini now for the 1st time.
Super slick... especially compared to a 2015 iMac.

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 07:43 AM

View PostCobra, on 28 April 2021 - 10:01 PM, said:

After using iMacs this whole time, I also dived right in a got a Mac mini now for the 1st time.
Super slick... especially compared to a 2015 iMac.
Yeah, I've solely been running off a Mini now too.

After about 15 years of using MacBookPros (because they had 17" monitors back then)... and before then MacPros (the G3 and G4 towers)... going to "a tiny box" is different. However everything that I do on the mac, this Mini is plenty fast enough to handle......... the only lag/delay times I get, are fricken photoshop 'talking home' all the damned time slowing itself down LOL.

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 08:46 PM

View PostFrost, on 13 March 2021 - 06:02 PM, said:

This is kind of like going back to that, except Apple is not at the mercy of IBM or Motorola becoming lazy with development and losing focus.

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