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[UmarOMC1]

Aspyr haven't responded to my ticket from the last month either (off topic, it's Black Ops 3). I mentioned it in their Discord, someone asked me for the ticket number… never heard from them again.

[Frigidman™]

ipickert55, on 05 March 2020 - 06:42 PM, said:

So this is sort of unrelated to this thread, but... whatever.

I've been having problems with the Mac version of Kotor since December. I've made two tickets with Aspyr and they haven't responded to either, and they just closed the first one after a month with zero communication. So, hopefully that means they're too busy to deal with my popsnizzle.

A recent correspondence with them resulted in the gleaned attitude of "all old games are unsupported"... as in, they do not want to support them, offer them, handle them, or anything to do with them. Not for prior buyers. If they have a game currently being sold, its the only thing they are supporting.

[Janichsan]

Frigidman™, on 06 March 2020 - 10:02 AM, said:

A recent correspondence with them resulted in the gleaned attitude of "all old games are unsupported"... as in, they do not want to support them, offer them, handle them, or anything to do with them. Not for prior buyers. If they have a game currently being sold, its the only thing they are supporting.

KotOR is still being sold.

Oh, wait. The Mac version isn't. When did that happen? Didn't KotOR even receive a 64-bit update?

[ipickert55]

Janichsan, on 06 March 2020 - 01:09 PM, said:

KotOR is still being sold.

Oh, wait. The Mac version isn't. When did that happen? Didn't KotOR even receive a 64-bit update?

It was being sold on the Mac App store last time I checked, and it did receive that 64 bit update.

[Janichsan]

ipickert55, on 06 March 2020 - 07:52 PM, said:

It was being sold on the Mac App store last time I checked,...

That's what I thought, too. But a search on the MAS only comes up with KotOR 2. And the link on Aspyr's website to the MAS version gets redirected to an App Store page stating that this app is only available for iPhone and iPad.

[jos]

That's strange. I'm pretty sure I saw it only just last week while I was browsing the Mac App Store. I was even surprised to see it there, as Aspyr is now only selling 64-bit games and it’s an old game that I didn't expect to get the 64-bit treatment.

[Spike]

Janichsan, on 07 March 2020 - 01:23 AM, said:

But a search on the MAS only comes up with KotOR 2. And the link on Aspyr's website to the MAS version gets redirected to an App Store page stating that this app is only available for iPhone and iPad.

Searching Kotor on MAS results in both kotor and kotor 2 for me, but maybe because I purchased it there. It does show updated for 64-bit 7mo ago in version 1.4. The link on Aspyr's page still only goes to ios only.

[dr.zeissler]

I wonder why no one ever ported the later/last WOLFENSTEIN series.

[Janichsan]

dr.zeissler, on 08 March 2020 - 01:41 AM, said:

I wonder why no one ever ported the later/last WOLFENSTEIN series.

Bethesda doesn't care about Mac at all.

[jeannot]

Janichsan, on 08 March 2020 - 01:49 AM, said:

Bethesda doesn't care about Mac at all.

Or linux, for that matter. I find it baffling that id coded their engine in Vulkan, yet no idTech 6 game has been ported to linux. Granted, these games runs well with Wine.

[ipickert55]

Frigidman™, on 06 March 2020 - 10:02 AM, said:

A recent correspondence with them resulted in the gleaned attitude of "all old games are unsupported"... as in, they do not want to support them, offer them, handle them, or anything to do with them. Not for prior buyers. If they have a game currently being sold, its the only thing they are supporting.

Also late response to this, assuming thats true, they couldve literally written a one sentence response explaining that, but they havent.

[dr.zeissler]

The INtel-Switch killed native macgaming. (on the long run)

[Thain Esh Kelch]

dr.zeissler, on 10 March 2020 - 12:06 AM, said:

The INtel-Switch killed native macgaming. (on the long run)

Wut? You clearly weren't here before we went Intel.

[jos]

Janichsan, on 08 March 2020 - 01:49 AM, said:

Bethesda doesn't care about Mac at all.

Exactly. id Software has always been knows for their support of Mac and Linux. All of the Wolfenstein games, Doom games, Quake games and even Rage and (although not developed by id Software themselves) Prey were all released for the Mac and Linux. That's up until Rage. After that none of their games have been released for the Mac nor Linux. All of the new Wolfenstein games, the new Doom, the new Rage, the new Prey. Support for other operating systems than Windows was completely dropped. It's such a shame, because these are my favourite games. I've always loved id Software's first-person shooters. It's just ridiculous they're now part of a company who doesn't care at all about Mac or Linux.

ipickert55, on 09 March 2020 - 08:05 PM, said:

Also late response to this, assuming thats true, they couldve literally written a one sentence response explaining that, but they havent.

Exactly. This is something I don't understand. In my experience most companies think reply at all is better than a reply with negative news. When they have to tell someone "No, you're out of luck." most of the time they just don't even bother answering. In my opinion it's just ridiculous and absolutely not-done to not answer someone. No matter how good or bad the reply might be, companies should always answer. I'd rather get a reply telling me "No, screw you, loser." than no reply at all. This way at least I've got an answer to my question.

Aspyr and Feral are actually perfect examples of two companies that are completely at the opposite site of the spectrum. Aspyr has never answered me or even shown any sign of still being alive. No matter what way you use to contact them, no matter the subject you're contacting them about, it all doesn't matter. It's as if all incoming communication is being redirected straight to Trash and no-one ever sees it. Contact Feral by email, on social media or whatever about any subject you want and within a few hours you'll get a reply. Even if they've got to tell you: "No, that's not going to happen. This game is too old and unknown to still put resources into porting it to the Mac." It doesn't matter if they've got to bring you bad news. They will answer. To me that's really important. As a company you've got a reputation to keep up and answering emails and messages is in my opinion very important.

[ipickert55]

jos, on 10 March 2020 - 10:18 AM, said:

Exactly. This is something I don't understand. In my experience most companies think reply at all is better than a reply with negative news. When they have to tell someone "No, you're out of luck." most of the time they just don't even bother answering. In my opinion it's just ridiculous and absolutely not-done to not answer someone. No matter how good or bad the reply might be, companies should always answer. I'd rather get a reply telling me "No, screw you, loser." than no reply at all. This way at least I've got an answer to my question.

Aspyr and Feral are actually perfect examples of two companies that are completely at the opposite site of the spectrum. Aspyr has never answered me or even shown any sign of still being alive. No matter what way you use to contact them, no matter the subject you're contacting them about, it all doesn't matter. It's as if all incoming communication is being redirected straight to Trash and no-one ever sees it. Contact Feral by email, on social media or whatever about any subject you want and within a few hours you'll get a reply. Even if they've got to tell you: "No, that's not going to happen. This game is too old and unknown to still put resources into porting it to the Mac." It doesn't matter if they've got to bring you bad news. They will answer. To me that's really important. As a company you've got a reputation to keep up and answering emails and messages is in my opinion very important.

I've had nothing but positive experiences with Feral support, even when they can't really do anything to help me like you said. They're awesome.

I guess Aspyr is just one of the cool mobile/pc publishers now so they don't have time for their OG mac friends anymore. (Sarcasm).

[Cougar]

I've had nothing but good experiences with Aspyr too, but that was all at least a few years ago. Clearly, something changed. I wouldn't be surprised if they're simply trying to stay afloat. But they keep publishing things...

[ipickert55]

Cougar, on 10 March 2020 - 06:38 PM, said:

I've had nothing but good experiences with Aspyr too, but that was all at least a few years ago. Clearly, something changed. I wouldn't be surprised if they're simply trying to stay afloat. But they keep publishing things...

The things they publish do well too, at least critically.

[ozzy]

Spike, on 07 March 2020 - 11:58 AM, said:

Searching Kotor on MAS results in both kotor and kotor 2 for me, but maybe because I purchased it there. It does show updated for 64-bit 7mo ago in version 1.4. The link on Aspyr's page still only goes to ios only.

Both KOTOR 1 and KOTOR 2 show up in the Mac App Store on 10.15.3 for me here. I haven't purchased it, but both are for sale. Maybe they removed it from the store for earlier versions of Mac OS when they updated it to be 64-bit?

[jos]

ozzy, on 16 March 2020 - 02:33 PM, said:

Both KOTOR 1 and KOTOR 2 show up in the Mac App Store on 10.15.3 for me here. I haven't purchased it, but both are for sale. Maybe they removed it from the store for earlier versions of Mac OS when they updated it to be 64-bit?

I just decided to check it. I don't know why it doesn't show up for Janichsan, but for me it still shows up in the Mac App Store on 10.14.6.

[Homy]

jos, on 17 March 2020 - 09:48 AM, said:

I just decided to check it. I don't know why it doesn't show up for Janichsan, but for me it still shows up in the Mac App Store on 10.14.6.

I'm on 10.12.4 and both show up too.