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Aspyr Addresses Lion OS Game Incompatibilities
#1
Posted 22 July 2011 - 05:34 AM
#3
#4
Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:46 AM
#5
Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:59 AM
Not happy. Ugh!
#6
Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:04 AM
I'm guessing the "new" copies of the jedi knight games on game agent\the mac game store are a little more updated than the retail editions with the latest available UB patches? Only thing is I already splurged my money this month finally getting a copy of Killing Floor and then getting Lion and I don't want to spend upwards of $40 upgrading my Jedi Knight games and possibly still having them be broken. Also I wonder if they are going to patch\rerelease Alice..... or if they are going to port the new one and include the new port of it like what was done on the PC\Consoles.
Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:
the Battle Cat said:
Late 2012 27 inch iMac, Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB, 3TB HDD - Mavericks
Late 2009 27 inch iMac, Core i5 2.6GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon 4850HD 512MB, 1TB HDD - Mavericks
Mac Mini, PowerPC G4 1.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200 32MB, 256GB HDD - Leopard
Dell Inspiron 1200 Notebook: 1.2GHz Celeron, 1.2GB RAM, Intel GMA915, 75GB HDD - Ubuntu
Generic Black Tower PC, Dual Core 64-bit 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT 512MB - Windows 7
#7
Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:16 AM
#8
Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:26 AM
"I DID in fact need the Snow Leopard DVD after a clean install and here's why: I do video editting on my Mac and I own Final Cut Studio 2. While the whole Final Cut Studio 2 package is Universal Binaries, the installer is not. But Lion discarded Rosette, so what should I do? Of course, I could install Snow Leo, install FCS2, then install Lion, but I want a clean install.
The reason I needed the Snow Leo DVD is, because you can still install Rosetta from this DVD onto the clean installed Lion and then install FCS2. Sadly, Rosetta cannot be easily copied from the Snow Leo DVD to keep somewhere seperately, but I'll have to experiment more with that."
I have yet to upgrade so can't comment on the validity of this. Is this even possible?
-PN
iPad Air 2 64GB WiFi/iPhone 6+ 64GB
#9
Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:37 AM
Tacohead, on 22 July 2011 - 08:26 AM, said:
"I DID in fact need the Snow Leopard DVD after a clean install and here's why: I do video editting on my Mac and I own Final Cut Studio 2. While the whole Final Cut Studio 2 package is Universal Binaries, the installer is not. But Lion discarded Rosette, so what should I do? Of course, I could install Snow Leo, install FCS2, then install Lion, but I want a clean install.
The reason I needed the Snow Leo DVD is, because you can still install Rosetta from this DVD onto the clean installed Lion and then install FCS2. Sadly, Rosetta cannot be easily copied from the Snow Leo DVD to keep somewhere seperately, but I'll have to experiment more with that."
I have yet to upgrade so can't comment on the validity of this. Is this even possible?
-PN
#10
Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:49 AM
Check out Good Old Games. No DRM to bother with when you buy them there and they're dang cheap, especially if you wishlist a game then wait for it to go on sale. I picked up Fallout and Fallout 2 for less than $3 each. I also bought all of the Infinity engine games ( Baldur's Gate, etc,) for Less than $5 each.
I've had some experience with using wrappers (yes, it's perfectly legal), so if you're lost, let me know; I might be able to help.
-V. Marchetti, CIA
#11
Posted 22 July 2011 - 10:49 AM
Riko, on 22 July 2011 - 08:16 AM, said:
--Eric
#12
Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:59 AM
That doesn’t mean I’m looking to blame the game makers or Apple. These are OLD products, and porting to keep them alive isn’t always easy or cheap. It may simply be impractical. Rather than blame companies who aren’t updating from PPC to Intel, at this late date, I’ll praise the ones who do!
I certainly would like to see Intel-ready games (like Alice) get a Lion patch if they need one. I’m happy that Alice is NOT on that list, and am hopeful I’ll get to run it still. But there are often apps (even big productivity titles) that need a patch for a new OS, and it’s not rare that the patch doesn’t make it to release until the OS has been out a while. With a game as old as Alice, I don’t find a delay (currently about 50 hours and counting) to be that unforgivable.
As for why Apple had to switch to Intel, and then, why they had to remove the PPC code when evolving their OS? If you think those decisions have bad consequences, I’m with you. But we must also admit that those decisions have very real benefits as well. Benefits to us as Mac users. And, I suspect, they’re worth it.
We may never know how much more slowly OS X would evolve if PPC app support were left in. What features would have come later, or been skipped? What bugs would have cropped up? How much extra development time would Apple have had to put in, and how much later would Lion (or the next version) be? How much time would Apple have put in for PPC testing? Or what would they have neglected to spend time on while handling support for ancient PPC apps? We’ll never know what might have been.
In a way it would be cool if they spent those resources and kept PPC support for years to come. But I’m betting, if we saw that future, it’s just not worth it.
After all, our Macs still run the same games after Lion came out. Nothing has changed unless we choose to upgrade, and we do have options for keeping Snow Leopard if we wish.
#13
Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:53 PM
Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:
the Battle Cat said:
Late 2012 27 inch iMac, Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB, 3TB HDD - Mavericks
Late 2009 27 inch iMac, Core i5 2.6GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon 4850HD 512MB, 1TB HDD - Mavericks
Mac Mini, PowerPC G4 1.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200 32MB, 256GB HDD - Leopard
Dell Inspiron 1200 Notebook: 1.2GHz Celeron, 1.2GB RAM, Intel GMA915, 75GB HDD - Ubuntu
Generic Black Tower PC, Dual Core 64-bit 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT 512MB - Windows 7
#14
Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:04 PM
Smoke_Tetsu, on 22 July 2011 - 12:53 PM, said:
I'm going to miss Alice, COD 1, JK2, JA etc. When a certain someone worked at Aspyr you could be sure there would be a patch even if done out of hours - now I'm not so sure?
They have moved some of these titles to the Appstore & MGS as downloads so there is a chance. The thing is for those of us who purchased them at retail before these avenues existed the patches haven't arrived. I ended up getting KOTOR when it was on sale on the App Store to get around issues with the retail CD release. I guess I could look to do the same for the others but why should I have to pay again? A small token amount to move to the digital version maybe (like MacPlay did with the Halo UB patch) but not full price.
#15
Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:05 PM
As for Aspyr. I really don't care what they do anymore. They dropped the ball long ago. They are a company in free fall.
#16
Posted 22 July 2011 - 04:07 PM
clocknova, on 22 July 2011 - 08:49 AM, said:
#17
Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:13 PM
#18
Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:51 PM
#19
Posted 22 July 2011 - 09:16 PM
dorkhero, on 22 July 2011 - 08:51 PM, said:
--Eric
#20
Posted 22 July 2011 - 09:24 PM
Alex Delarg, A Clockwork Orange said:
the Battle Cat said:
Late 2012 27 inch iMac, Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 680MX 2GB, 3TB HDD - Mavericks
Late 2009 27 inch iMac, Core i5 2.6GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon 4850HD 512MB, 1TB HDD - Mavericks
Mac Mini, PowerPC G4 1.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200 32MB, 256GB HDD - Leopard
Dell Inspiron 1200 Notebook: 1.2GHz Celeron, 1.2GB RAM, Intel GMA915, 75GB HDD - Ubuntu
Generic Black Tower PC, Dual Core 64-bit 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 GT 512MB - Windows 7