Cougar, on 03 November 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:
Integrated graphics haven't stagnated, though. Apple may be using more of them but that's because they are more capable than before. If you take Retina off the table (and nobody should really be gaming in Retina) it's not really any worse. And remember the days with those lovely first-gen Intel graphics? And by far the most popular Macs are 13", which have always been integrated.
I am not sure why it is safe to assume Apple won't update OpenGL further, especially while Metal is inadequate for many things. 10.11 still brought plenty of OpenGL improvements, Yes, overall Apple is terrible with updating it, but it's not better or worse than it's always been.
Again, a lot of unsubstantiated sky is falling sentiments in this thread...personally, I need more evidence before I start to worry.
The base 15" retina MBP from 2012 came with an Nvidia 650M GPU. The new base 15" retina comes with Intel Integrated and you have to spend around $500 more then you would have in 2012 to have the option for the dedicated GPU. The base 2012 rMBP literally outperforms the base 2015 rMBP in anything that uses a GPU for extra power.
All of the iMacs used to come with dedicated GPU's. In the past few years they have started using only integrated in the base models, but there was always an option for dedicated in every iMac that was mid-range and up. I'm really quite appalled by Apple's increasing hardware greed when it comes to the total lack of power in some of their base model machines, specifically the iMac range. The base iMac has laughable specs: 1.6 GHz dual core, HD 6000 GPU, 8 GB RAM, 1 TB 5400rpm HDD, 1080p screen : $1400 CDN. For comparison the base 13" MBA (which is $200 cheaper, or $80 cheaper when you configure to 8 GB's of RAM) has the same CPU, same graphics, 4 GB RAM, and PCIe SSD - better specs for less price in a Macbook.
I don't care if 95% of the iMac market doesn't need better specs than that. It's downright shameful for Apple to be selling something with that hardware for that price. At the very least make the fusion drive standard or something.
Sorry for the rant. I agree with you that for many product lines it's business as usual, but for some there is a very worrying trend towards popsnizzlety hardware. Not to mention you can't even get a dedicated GPU in your Mac anymore unless you are willing to drop $2,000+ (27" iMac, top-end 15" rMBP, or Mac Pro are the only options).