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[mattw]

Seems Shadow of the Tomb Raider requires Catalina as well...

It is starting to look like you need two Macs - one for all your legacy titles and another going forwards.

[Mr Pink]

Only 4th Generation MacBooks Pros supported... I guess the end is near for my late 2013 MBP.

[jeannot]

mattw, on 05 November 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

Seems Shadow of the Tomb Raider requires Catalina as well...

Crap.

EDIT: it's not the first time that a Feral game requires the latest macOS, but in this instance, I don't think it's a good move. I suspect that many Mac gamers are not willing to update to Catalina.

[Frigidman™]

jeannot, on 05 November 2019 - 01:17 PM, said:

Crap.

EDIT: it's not the first time that a Feral game requires the latest macOS, but in this instance, I don't think it's a good move. I suspect that many Mac gamers are not willing to update to Catalina.

Judging by the metrics on MGS... the adoption rate of Catalina has been VERY low compared to all prior macOS versions.

10.15 is still sitting at only 2.7% of users, using it.
10.14 is sitting at 51.2%.
10.13 coming in at 21.1%.
Then all the rest is a mix of all the prior all the way back to 10.4 (yes, some people still run 10.4).

[Matt Diamond]

Brad Oliver posted on twitter: "Glad to see this one finally ship. A lot of interesting under-the-hood new tech powering this one!"

Presumably if things had been less "interesting" it might not require Catalina..

[jeannot]

Matt Diamond, on 05 November 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:

Brad Oliver posted on twitter: "Glad to see this one finally ship. A lot of interesting under-the-hood new tech powering this one!"

Presumably if things had been less "interesting" it might not require Catalina..

He doesn't say if this new tech is related to the Linux and/or macOS port.

[dr.zeissler]

Frigidman™, on 05 November 2019 - 01:42 PM, said:

Judging by the metrics on MGS... the adoption rate of Catalina has been VERY low compared to all prior macOS versions.

10.15 is still sitting at only 2.7% of users, using it.
10.14 is sitting at 51.2%.
10.13 coming in at 21.1%.
Then all the rest is a mix of all the prior all the way back to 10.4 (yes, some people still run 10.4).

I am running 10.3.9 on my g4-macmini's

[Frigidman™]

dr.zeissler, on 06 November 2019 - 06:57 AM, said:

I am running 10.3.9 on my g4-macmini's

I might actually still have that on one of my older MBP too! Wow, makes me wonder what I have on that machine .... if the dust bunnies have not eaten it by now, I may fire it up.... someday. LOL

[Laurensvo]

Personally, never had problems with Catalina. Whats all the noise about Catalina?

[Cougar]

Laurensvo, on 06 November 2019 - 10:35 AM, said:

Personally, never had problems with Catalina. Whats all the noise about Catalina?

Mainly the dropping of 32-bit support, with little benefit in terms of new features.

[jos]

mattw, on 05 November 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

Seems Shadow of the Tomb Raider requires Catalina as well...

It is starting to look like you need two Macs - one for all your legacy titles and another going forwards.

Personally I don't care if it needs Catalina. I've got several MacBooks, so for me it's no problem to just update the newest one to Catalina and keep on using older version of macOS on the older ones. However, what I do care about is the store the game is being sold. Until now it's only on Steam and not on the Mac App Store. These new Tomb Raider games are a trilogy, so I want to play all three games. In such case I'll always wait until all of them are released, so I can buy and play all of them without having to wait until the release of the next game in the franchise (the same way I'm still waiting for the complete boxset with all seasons of Game of Thrones to be released, so I can buy and watch all seasons without having to wait every time until a new season is released).

However, I refuse to use Steam, but until now there's no sign of the game on the Mac App Store. Deus Ex is one of those game series that had the first games available on the Mac App Store, but the last one was only available on Steam. I'll either buy all three of them from the Mac App Store or I won't buy any of them. I'm not going to buy only the first two games if I can't finish the whole trilogy. It'd be like watching Back to the Future on Blu-ray, then watching Back to the Future Part II on Blu-ray and then you'd see the text "To be continued..." on screen, but Back to the Future Part 3 is only available on Netflix. If the first two games are available on the Mac App Store the last one should be as well.

[dr.zeissler]

Frigidman™, on 06 November 2019 - 08:33 AM, said:

I might actually still have that on one of my older MBP too! Wow, makes me wonder what I have on that machine .... if the dust bunnies have not eaten it by now, I may fire it up.... someday. LOL

btw. so many excellent games for that machine...my 500GB FW-Drive is more than 70% full

[Laurensvo]

jos, on 06 November 2019 - 11:22 AM, said:

However, I refuse to use Steam, but until now there's no sign of the game on the Mac App Store. Deus Ex is one of those game series that had the first games available on the Mac App Store, but the last one was only available on Steam. I'll either buy all three of them from the Mac App Store or I won't buy any of them. I'm not going to buy only the first two games if I can't finish the whole trilogy. It'd be like watching Back to the Future on Blu-ray, then watching Back to the Future Part II on Blu-ray and then you'd see the text "To be continued..." on screen, but Back to the Future Part 3 is only available on Netflix. If the first two games are available on the Mac App Store the last one should be as well.

What's wrong with Steam? It's not that bad.

btw do we get a star when we've reached 100 posts?

[Matt Diamond]

Laurensvo, on 06 November 2019 - 03:58 PM, said:

btw do we get a star when we've reached 100 posts?

No, sorry. But you do get a balloon after 38 posts.

[UmarOMC1]

mattw, on 05 November 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

Seems Shadow of the Tomb Raider requires Catalina as well...

WHOA! And I almost purchased it on the 67% off sale a week before [the macOS/Linux] release. I've got a library to finish before I upgrade.

[jos]

Laurensvo, on 06 November 2019 - 03:58 PM, said:

What's wrong with Steam? It's not that bad.

The horrible DRM they use and the terrible client.

[Frigidman™]

jos, on 07 November 2019 - 11:31 AM, said:

The horrible DRM they use and the terrible client.

DRM? Their own DRM is no worse than GOG's or Origin, or Uplay, or even MGS's copy protection wraps.

The terrible client is a completely valid claim.... especially after them completely abusing the hell out of good UI design with their "New Game Library" update. If they wanted to push people to Epic... that new UI is a good start.

[dr.zeissler]

I don't like steam, but I hate if you have dvd's and can't install due to online-activation and no cracks in sight.

[Laurensvo]

dr.zeissler, on 07 November 2019 - 12:24 PM, said:

I don't like steam, but I hate if you have dvd's and can't install due to online-activation and no cracks in sight.

You don't need DVDs for Steam. Wait...arn't cracks illegal?

[Camper-Hunter]

Frigidman™, on 07 November 2019 - 11:42 AM, said:

If they wanted to push people to Epic... that new UI is a good start.

Trouble is, the Epic Store UI is even worse.