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#81 the Battle Cat

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 04:01 PM

View PostThain Esh Kelch, on 08 September 2020 - 11:03 AM, said:

The prequels are so much better than the last three movies.



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Posted 09 September 2020 - 06:53 AM

Disagree. I thought AoftC had some good moments, and RotS had a brave story for a Star Wars movie. But both of them also had bad dialog and stupid plot points.

I think Lucas was a much better "pantser" than "plotter". Or as G R R Martin might say, a better gardener than architect. See: https://www.wired.co...rs-vs-pantsers/
That's why the first movie stands up so amazingly well, and its possible he might have done a good job with the #7 and 8 if he hadn't sold them.

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Posted 09 September 2020 - 08:46 AM

Watching Clone Wars series on Disney+ gave me a better appreciation for what Lucas was trying to do with the prequels. I think the problem was that it was such a huge story of politics/intrigue/war/empire building and destroying, that packing it all into three movies while keeping the Anakin storyline moving forward was nigh on impossible.
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Posted 10 September 2020 - 05:45 PM

View Postthe Battle Cat, on 08 September 2020 - 04:01 PM, said:



I shant fight you brother.  When Dizzy took the reins the franchise took a nose dive and refused to pull up.  I blame gremlins, obviously they ejected the tail assembly.  When they killed off Luke and Hans Star Wars bit through it's cyanide tooth.  RIP Star Wars, oh how I loved thee.  Saw the first one in the theater sitting in the first row because there were no more seats and it was world changing for me.

To be fair, Rogue One was solid.  But it also deliberately tried to fit in as a direct prequel to Ep. 4 and match the vibe of the Orig. Trilogy.  

Solo would have beena fine Scifi action adventure if it had simply not been Star Wars.  If theyd just changed the names, and made it a generic sci-fi movie, it would have been a B+.  As a Star Wars movie, though, it was a solid C-

The rest, though..ugh.  Trash.  Just.. Trash.  Ive read better fanfic.  Hell, if theyd just produced the (now Non-canon) original Thrawn Trilogy and not thrown away the expanded universe on a whim....  too late, though.  Though i hear The Mandalorian is great... but i attribute that to it (like Rogue One) deliberately paying homage to the Orig. Trilogy and its style (amd John Favreau).

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Posted 28 December 2020 - 08:54 AM

There's a new hope: George Lucas Reportedly Wants To Make His Original Sequel Trilogy


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As fans will know, Lucas already had outlines for his own versions of Episodes VII, VIII and IX, which he ended up handing over to Disney when he sold up and made himself a few billion dollars richer for his troubles, but now he’s reportedly getting the itch to become more hands-on again and make his abandoned concepts a reality since the Mouse House didn’t wind up using them. To be clear, these films wouldn’t retcon or erase the Sequel Trilogy from existence, they would just be a new, separate trilogy set in that galaxy far, far away and based on George’s original ideas that Disney scrapped.
Despite planning to walk away from Star Wars entirely, the noted plaid enthusiast has been slowly becoming more and more involved again, frequently showing up on the set of The Mandalorian and essentially acting as the franchise’s Don Corleone to mentor the new generation.
A new trilogy hailing from Lucas himself would certainly generate huge buzz, but for now this remains nothing more than something he’s been discussing with the studio and thinking about, with no firm confirmation that it will ever happen.

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Posted 28 December 2020 - 10:01 AM

Just my opinion here, but there is not a lot of evidence that Lucas knows how to make compelling new Star Wars content. The prequels were hit or miss, as was his endless tinkering with the original trilogy.

I think this is just him wanted to tinker again. I doubt anything will come of it. But I'd be mildly curious what story is in his mind. Is Luke and Co in it? Some of his itch may be coming from the urge to play with hot new CGI tech.

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Posted 28 December 2020 - 11:12 AM

Don't let Lucas near the writing of the actual script and the director's chair, and the result might turn out fine. However, the few tidbits we got from his exposÚs for the sequel trilogy sounded stupid as hell.

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Posted 29 December 2020 - 04:37 PM

Lucas selling rights to Disney for billions and then becoming director for sequels somehow doesn't seem like it would fly at Mouse HQ, for various business (and other) reasons. If I were a Disney exec and learned Lucas was hanging around the sets, making suggestions, I would be annoyed AF and probably ban him before he started to really meddle.

Bottom line--get rid of Lucas, Abrams, and Kennedy for good and give the keys to the SW kingdom to Filoni, ffs. If you don't believe me, watch the Disney+ episode of the making of Mandalorian series where  Filoni breaks down the fight (from Phantom Menace) between Qui Gon, Obi, and Maul and what it means for Anakin's future. Filoni gets SW and is a great storyteller.

I can only imagine how much a better job he could have done with the sequels story arc.
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