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#61 Sneaky Snake

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 12:07 PM

I know it isn't a great solution, but you can just plug in an external USB 3.0/TB3  SSD and boot off of that. Adds clutter but massively cuts down on the drive upgrade cost.
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 01:33 PM

The future of Hackintoshes is hazy at best with technologies like the T2 and SIP.

I have a very nice iMac that I bought with max RAM and a tiny internal drive. I have a 2TB Thunderbolt SSD that I boot off (along with various other bulk storage). Apple's storage isn't overpriced for the class of storage they use but I don't need 3200 MB/s r/w at home.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 01:47 PM

Yes, the iMac is stupid to buy with no upgradability and has been. Wait for the (taking way too long) "Modular" Mac Pro... Of course, dreading its sticker shock :unsure: is going to be.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 02:16 PM

Love All-In-One Macs myself.

Mac Pro is going to be the first ARM Mac btw.
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 02:19 PM

View Postmacdude22, on 19 March 2019 - 02:16 PM, said:

Mac Pro is going to be the first ARM Mac btw.
...which would be a massive *frak you* to the Mac Pro's target audience.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 02:27 PM

It's going to be super fast. 32 core base model with available 64 core upgrade. It will have serviceable memory, all other expansion will be via thunderbolt 3.
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 03:43 PM

View Postmacdude22, on 19 March 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

It's going to be super fast. 32 core base model with available 64 core upgrade.
That means nothing without supported software. For instance in the scientific area, which always has been a major part of the Mac Pro's target audience, there are no high-performance programs at all which run on ARM CPUs. Intel, yes. SPARC, yes. Power (and PowerPC before that), yes. ARM? Zero. Many applications couldn't even be ported to ARM without massive drawbacks as they are built to make use of certain CPU-specific technologies.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 07:16 PM

View Postmacdude22, on 19 March 2019 - 02:16 PM, said:

Mac Pro is going to be the first ARM Mac btw.

If that happens, then I will abandon the Mac completely. I cannot go without boot camp or my wine wrapped games and utilities.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 07:52 PM

ARM macs are a coming. I can't wait to get back to my RISC roots.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 11:34 PM

View PostSneaky Snake, on 19 March 2019 - 12:07 PM, said:

I know it isn't a great solution, but you can just plug in an external USB 3.0/TB3  SSD and boot off of that. Adds clutter but massively cuts down on the drive upgrade cost.
Yeah, I considered that, but I just find it too stupid having to resort to such meassures just to get storage space. And I dread having to use Symlinks all over the place to be able to have my apps on the system!
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 06:46 AM

My Mac Pro 2008 is (holds up both hands with fingers extended) THIS many years old. I upgraded the video card twice. So I'm holding out for the next Mac Pro, and if it lasts 8-10 years it will have been well worth the expense. But if it is ARM or starts at $5000 then I'll probably get a Mini with eGPU instead.

I like the idea of making a Hackintosh, but I just don't have the patience at this time of life.
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 07:00 AM

Why would you need to make a bunch of symlinks if you're booting off an external SSD?

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My Mac Pro 2008 is (holds up both hands with fingers extended) THIS many years old. I upgraded the video card twice. So I'm holding out for the next Mac Pro, and if it lasts 8-10 years it will have been well worth the expense. But if it is ARM or starts at $5000 then I'll probably get a Mini with eGPU instead.

I like the idea of making a Hackintosh, but I just don't have the patience at this time of life.

You'd make up half the difference just in electricity with a mini and eGPU :teehee: (spoken as someone who also owns a 2008, though it's to really used anymore)
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 01:10 PM

View PostThain Esh Kelch, on 19 March 2019 - 11:34 PM, said:

Yeah, I considered that, but I just find it too stupid having to resort to such meassures just to get storage space. And I dread having to use Symlinks all over the place to be able to have my apps on the system!

There is no need for symlinks. You are booting directly off of the external SSD and it would be your primary drive. The only annoyance is that you have to have an external drive plugged in.

The internal 5400rpm HDD would just show up as a 2nd drive and I would probably just use it for time machine backups or media storage.
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Posted 22 March 2019 - 12:56 AM

My reasoning is that I will never ever buy a machine with a HDD again - A statement and logical reasoning. Especially not with Apples slow as a snail 5400 RPM drives! So that means I will get an SSD, and since Apple actually provides excellent SSD's, I might as well use it as a boot drive. And this will likely result in a 128GB drive or something since Apple is so cheap, i will have to resort to symlinks unless I want to spread my files over multiple Applications, Documents, etc. folders.
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Posted 22 March 2019 - 07:00 AM

I just use the 256GB internal on my iMac to store a few things I want to load ultra fast (borderlands, WoWs).

Everything else (including boot) is on a 2TB external thunderbolt SSD (also have a 6TB Toshiba rust for bulk storage). It is under 30 seconds from cold boot to desktop with the external SSD. It's not really a slouch. I was not going to frak around with symlinking my home folder.
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Posted 22 March 2019 - 11:54 AM

Also note that it's easy to put the iTunes and iPhoto media libraries on an external disk. It's a configuration setting so you don't need to symlink.

Just remember to include that external in backups.
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Posted 22 March 2019 - 10:31 PM

View PostMatt Diamond, on 20 March 2019 - 06:46 AM, said:

My Mac Pro 2008 is (holds up both hands with fingers extended) THIS many years old. I upgraded the video card twice. So I'm holding out for the next Mac Pro, and if it lasts 8-10 years it will have been well worth the expense. But if it is ARM or starts at $5000 then I'll probably get a Mini with eGPU instead.

I like the idea of making a Hackintosh, but I just don't have the patience at this time of life.
For the price it was almost a no-brainer and I took it as an opportunity to walk the kids through building it. I only installed the motherboard.
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