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[UmarOMC1]

More Extreme in Every Way: The New Titan Is Here – NVIDIA TITAN Xp

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Open to Mac Community

Speaking of users, we’re also making the new TITAN Xp open to the Mac community with new Pascal drivers, coming this month. For the first time, this gives Mac users access to the immense horsepower delivered by our award-winning Pascal-powered GPUs.
TITAN Xp is available now for $1,200 direct from nvidia.com, and select system builders soon.

[Tetsuya]

.... so in 2018 there will actually be a Mac  that we can put it in...

[Sneaky Snake]

eGPU would work I guess, although it would severely bottleneck the card

[devSin]

They don't specifically market it for Macs, but what they are saying is that they're releasing Pascal drivers this month.

Theoretically, that means we can finally use any 10x0-series cards and have them supported (a la Maxwell) when running macOS.

[Cougar]

Tetsuya, on 06 April 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

.... so in 2018 there will actually be a Mac  that we can put it in...

I'm putting my money on 2019.

devSin, on 06 April 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

They don't specifically market it for Macs, but what they are saying is that they're releasing Pascal drivers this month.

Theoretically, that means we can finally use any 10x0-series cards and have them supported (a la Maxwell) when running macOS.

Yes, 9to5Mac specifically asked them this, and any Pascal card will work.

[Tetsuya]

I mean, it's great news for anyone who wants to build a Hackintosh, i guess.

[UmarOMC1]

You better believe I'm going to try to slap a Pascal card in my MacPro, I'll let you know if I need a new power supply.

[Sneaky Snake]

You shouldn't need a new power supply for a Pascal GPU. It is an extremely efficient architecture. The GTX 1080 probably uses less power then your 970 currently does.

[devSin]

Sneaky Snake, on 06 April 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

You shouldn't need a new power supply for a Pascal GPU. It is an extremely efficient architecture. The GTX 1080 probably uses less power then your 970 currently does.

The problem is that they switched from 2 6-pin connectors (a common 970 configuration) to single 8-pin.

But the 1060 has a single 6-pin connector and is probably faster than the 970 (and cheaper, with more RAM).

[UmarOMC1]

devSin, on 06 April 2017 - 04:37 PM, said:

The problem is that they switched from 2 6-pin connectors (a common 970 configuration) to single 8-pin.

But the 1060 has a single 6-pin connector and is probably faster than the 970 (and cheaper, with more RAM).

My 970 has both a 6-pin and 8-pin but a 6 to 8 pin adapter that came with the card works fine (I thought I was going to need to buy the adapter before the card arrived).

[AussieMacGamer]

Tetsuya, on 06 April 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

.... so in 2018 there will actually be a Mac  that we can put it in...

There might be a Mac we can put it in. No one ever said user accessible PCI-e slots hahaha

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we told the team to take the time to do something really great. To do something that can be supported for a long time with customers with updates and upgrades throughout the years.

It's anyones guess as to how that plays out...

[Sneaky Snake]

devSin, on 06 April 2017 - 04:37 PM, said:

The problem is that they switched from 2 6-pin connectors (a common 970 configuration) to single 8-pin.

But the 1060 has a single 6-pin connector and is probably faster than the 970 (and cheaper, with more RAM).

The 1060 is slightly faster than the 970, but definitely not enough to worth spending money on it. Just save a little more and get at least the 1070

[UmarOMC1]

Sneaky Snake, on 06 April 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

The 1060 is slightly faster than the 970, but definitely not enough to worth spending money on it. Just save a little more and get at least the 1070

Agreed. If I find the Pascal cards' drivers allow full boot screen, etc. I'd go for a 1060, but [honestly] it's going to be 1080 or bust. All the strides are being made in the GPU department. Playing the latest games on an eight year old computer eight years ago would be unthinkable.

[AussieMacGamer]

Sneaky Snake, on 06 April 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

The 1060 is slightly faster than the 970, but definitely not enough to worth spending money on it. Just save a little more and get at least the 1070

I want to find a 970 to put in this friends old PC I've been commandeering but they retain their value pretty well compared to AMD cards which is a bummer for my wallet

Sneaky Snake, on 06 April 2017 - 11:59 AM, said:

eGPU would work I guess, although it would severely bottleneck the card

From the perspective of someone wanting to do video on a really GPU limited computer it's still an attractive proposition irrespective of the bottleneck. It's just a shame the enclosures are still quite expensive, time will tell I suppose.

[ikir]

Tetsuya, on 06 April 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

.... so in 2018 there will actually be a Mac  that we can put it in...

You can do it already with eGPU! I've already ordered my 1070 to replace my 780ti in my MacBook Pro 2016

[Camper-Hunter]

UmarOMC1, on 07 April 2017 - 12:22 AM, said:

If I find the Pascal cards' drivers allow full boot screen,

That can't technically happen only with a driver. You must flash the card's firmware. So, not gonna happen, at least not directly from NVIDIA.

[devSin]

UmarOMC1, on 06 April 2017 - 04:52 PM, said:

My 970 has both a 6-pin and 8-pin but a 6 to 8 pin adapter that came with the card works fine (I thought I was going to need to buy the adapter before the card arrived).

90% of the time, I think that would probably be fine.

My worry would be that at least some models route power through the motherboard (5,1 does). The connectors can actually handle the full 150W, but I don't know about the board (given that some people have been able to trigger emergency shutdowns, it seems like the tolerance is somewhere in between).

Sneaky Snake, on 06 April 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

The 1060 is slightly faster than the 970, but definitely not enough to worth spending money on it. Just save a little more and get at least the 1070

The point was just that there are options that aren't completely terrible (a faster 970 with more RAM at half the price) for somebody who doesn't want to gamble with adapters (or try to rig up external power). (I'd personally get a 1070 and try to look for one that comes with a combiner.)

[Camper-Hunter]

devSin, I used a KFA2/Galax 1070 EX in a Mac Pro 4,1 for a few months without issues. Just buy a 6 to 8 pin adapter and two PCIe cables suited for the Mac's motherboard connector.

[Tetsuya]

devSin, on 07 April 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

90% of the time, I think that would probably be fine.

My worry would be that at least some models route power through the motherboard (5,1 does). The connectors can actually handle the full 150W, but I don't know about the board (given that some people have been able to trigger emergency shutdowns, it seems like the tolerance is somewhere in between).

The point was just that there are options that aren't completely terrible (a faster 970 with more RAM at half the price) for somebody who doesn't want to gamble with adapters (or try to rig up external power). (I'd personally get a 1070 and try to look for one that comes with a combiner.)

I wouldnt worry about it.  The draw on a 1070 is only 150W at full load, and it can get 75W of that through the PCIe bus.  Youll be fine.

[devSin]

Tetsuya, on 07 April 2017 - 06:02 PM, said:

I wouldnt worry about it.  The draw on a 1070 is only 150W at full load, and it can get 75W of that through the PCIe bus.

Assuming even power draw, which is rarely the case (a lot of cards will only sip from PCI-E and draw most their power from the aux connectors).

Tetsuya, on 07 April 2017 - 06:02 PM, said:

Youll be fine.

I'm not in the market for a GPU (if I were, I would just aim for something with a 2x6 to 8 combiner).

We're just talking about Pascal drivers being a good thing for everyone (no Hackintosh or external power supply required).